WALLGLITCHING

Написано Thunderballs, 29.01.2014 at 03:36

Написано Permamuted, 28.01.2014 at 19:50

Serbian rewalling sucks, btw shame on the serbians in this game for allowing this tactic to become associated with them, i got serbian rewalled in a tourney game recently, by a serb!!

and as for wallglitch, i gave a solution to it which doesnt involve requiring 2 units to wf

Hahaha. I coined the term out of deference to Mauzer (he's from Serbia). Because he knows all the tricks. But he never used it on me or anyone as far as I know. So was associated out of a begrudging respect. Not disrespect.

I thought it was pera? Nevertheless it actually requires precision plus a little luck to pull it off so idk is pretty skillfull imo.

As for wallglitching, I personally think it might be easier just to allow it. If wallglitching were allowed I would rage less.

Написано b0nker2, 29.01.2014 at 03:40

I thought it was pera? Nevertheless it actually requires precision plus a little luck to pull it off so idk is pretty skillfull imo.

I dug it up for fun:

Написано Thunderballs, 30.08.2013 at 18:48

If bake a cake with poor ingredients, you end up with a bad tasting cake.

In our first duel, Comrade pulled the Siberian Re-wall on me in turn 2 (destroying you walling units and then rewalling ur cap with 3 units). It's a sheisty move on par with 1st turn wf-ing and I let him know that if were to ever duel again, or play a competitive match again he should acknowledge he was wrong to do so. He wasn't interested and we haven't played, which is fine....

I get a kick every time I hear it, because I wrote this once as kind of a joke on Mauzer, never used it again. Stopped playing, came back, and now it's a regular term.

Serbian Re-wall WORSE THAN Wall-fuck WORSE THAN Wall-glitch


Serbian Re-wall(destroying you walling units and then rewalling ur cap with 3 units)-most evil
Wall-Fuck-immoral
Wall-Glitch(remaking a wall)-acceptable for me

Lol serbian rewalling..
I remember when I was in Dalmati and SOME CERTAIN GUY rewalled me xD But anyway, if the city is yours and someone walls it, it's still possible to go through it. God damn it, noobs.
I've been testing and trying to find a glitch to attack enemy walled cities too, almost did it.

Написано InnateWonder, 29.01.2014 at 03:53

Serbian Re-wall WORSE THAN Wall-fuck WORSE THAN Wall-glitch


Serbian Re-wall(destroying you walling units and then rewalling ur cap with 3 units)-most evil
Wall-Fuck-immoral
Wall-Glitch(remaking a wall)-acceptable for me

I do serbian-rewall a lot, didnt knew it was bad :0

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 10:38

Написано InnateWonder, 29.01.2014 at 03:53

Serbian Re-wall WORSE THAN Wall-fuck WORSE THAN Wall-glitch


Serbian Re-wall(destroying you walling units and then rewalling ur cap with 3 units)-most evil
Wall-Fuck-immoral
Wall-Glitch(remaking a wall)-acceptable for me

I do serbian-rewall a lot, didnt knew it was bad :0

As I said above, Serbian rewalling is techinally retard and a waste. You can go through your own cities even if they're walled. *You can move units to that city but not from the city to outside*

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 10:38

I do serbian-rewall a lot, didnt knew it was bad :0

Pretty sure u are destroying the wallf@ck unit and rewalling same turn. Serbian walling is destroying 3 unit wall around city and rewalling it same turn. You'd probably hear from the players in game if u were doing.

Написано Thunderballs, 29.01.2014 at 18:14

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 10:38

I do serbian-rewall a lot, didnt knew it was bad :0

Pretty sure u are destroying the wallf@ck unit and rewalling same turn. Serbian walling is destroying 3 unit wall around city and rewalling it same turn. You'd probably hear from the players in game if u were doing.

oh, thanks for clarifying it, i do both.
but the later takes more than 3 units, unless i am doing it partially wrong?

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 18:51

Написано Thunderballs, 29.01.2014 at 18:14

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 10:38

I do serbian-rewall a lot, didnt knew it was bad :0

Pretty sure u are destroying the wallf@ck unit and rewalling same turn. Serbian walling is destroying 3 unit wall around city and rewalling it same turn. You'd probably hear from the players in game if u were doing.

oh, thanks for clarifying it, i do both.
but the later takes more than 3 units, unless i am doing it partially wrong?

There's a glitch you can do with a bug, you can rewall shit without attacking. You can do it with 3 but it's pretty damn hard, you would need more to make sure it won't fail.

Написано Guest, 30.01.2014 at 12:55

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 18:51

Написано Thunderballs, 29.01.2014 at 18:14

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 10:38

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Seems like you guys are talking about other types of glitches: Serbian re-walling & others. The original purpose of this thread was to determine if wall glitching (defined as moving wall units & re-making the wall with others) should be permitted in tourneys and CW.

If you think that WG should not be permitted, then I'll say this again: how would we go about dissalowing it? Would it not be allowed to move a city wall at all? Or, if you happen to move your wall, would you not be allowed to remake it until the next turn? Both those solutions seem silly to me... Because it's not clear when you move the wall units that your intent was to WG or not, I just don't see how WG could be policed effectively.

Things like Serbian re-walling and 1st turn WF are moves where the intent is clear. These can easily be banned from games.

Написано Grimm, 30.01.2014 at 16:30

Написано Guest, 30.01.2014 at 12:55

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 18:51

Написано Thunderballs, 29.01.2014 at 18:14

Написано Krieger3, 29.01.2014 at 10:38

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Seems like you guys are talking about other types of glitches: Serbian re-walling & others. The original purpose of this thread was to determine if wall glitching (defined as moving wall units & re-making the wall with others) should be permitted in tourneys and CW.

If you think that WG should not be permitted, then I'll say this again: how would we go about dissalowing it? Would it not be allowed to move a city wall at all? Or, if you happen to move your wall, would you not be allowed to remake it until the next turn? Both those solutions seem silly to me... Because it's not clear when you move the wall units that your intent was to WG or not, I just don't see how WG could be policed effectively.

Things like Serbian re-walling and 1st turn WF are moves where the intent is clear. These can easily be banned from games.

Wallglitching = Any kind of magic or faggotry made, related to walls.
Rewalling = Moving out a wall and make another wall instead.
Serbian rewalling = Taking down a wall and build another wall instead.
Those are the real and correct terms. R
ewalling or serbian rewalling are NOT considered as "glitches" because they are NOT. But many people have associated "glitching" with rewalling, so I think we better make it an official term ;/.
If we are talking about REAL "glitches", then yeah, there are ways to break walls without attacking, going through walled cities (as long as you own that city), and maybe it's possible to go through ANY wall, I have made a test game once and I swear I almost did it.

In my opinion, I think there rarely are situations where you move one of your walling units out and replace it. And ok, if there are, it's not a big deal since it's easy to identify if someone did it on purpose or not.

Написано Guest, 30.01.2014 at 20:45

Wallglitching = Any kind of magic or faggotry made, related to walls.
Rewalling = Moving out a wall and make another wall instead.
Serbian rewalling = Taking down a wall and build another wall instead.
Those are the real and correct terms. Rewalling or serbian rewalling are NOT considered as "glitches" because they are NOT. But many people have associated "glitching" with rewalling, so I think we better make it an official term ;/.
If we are talking about REAL "glitches", then yeah, there are ways to break walls without attacking, going through walled cities (as long as you own that city), and maybe it's possible to go through ANY wall, I have made a test game once and I swear I almost did it.

In my opinion, I think there rarely are situations where you move one of your walling units out and replace it. And ok, if there are, it's not a big deal since it's easy to identify if someone did it on purpose or not.

Alex, I understand the term WG no longer applies and that it should be called re-walling, but this is what people have been calling it. More importantly, this is what is being discussed in this thread. Not the other things that are real glitches. Some of the earlier posts:

Написано Indurate, 24.08.2013 at 10:49

It's when you move the units you used to wall to another location, and proceed to wall that particular city from another location. The city remains walled as if nothing happened. Not really a glitch. 90% sure this is the wall 'glitch' khal.eesi is referring to.

Написано tophat, 11.01.2014 at 14:20

It use to be a glitch... literally unbreakable, so they labelled it as a glitch. However, ever since they added wallfucks it is no longer a glitch, so the term "wallglitch" no longer applies. It is simply re-walling, which is a strategic move.

I think you make a valid point about rarely having to move wall units. Still, I can think of a few situations. For example, if I want to move one of my wall units to WF a key city that is out of reach of my other troops. Or if I want to try to TB an AT that is out of reach of other units. Or if I simply want to replace my 3 INF with 3 mili. This last one I do quite often actually - the INF are sent to defend elsewhere and the mili replace them.

Can someone help a noob out? What's the difference between waldfuckin and wallglitchin?

Написано Goblin, 31.01.2014 at 04:27

Написано Tortuguero, 30.01.2014 at 22:08

Can someone help a noob out? What's the difference between waldfuckin and wallglitchin?

Wallfuckin - moving your unit next to your opponents city to prevent him from creating a wall around it

Wallglitchin - replacing your wall units with another units so that your opponent fails in breaking your wall

Ok, thanks dude

Написано Goblin, 31.01.2014 at 04:27

Написано Tortuguero, 30.01.2014 at 22:08

Can someone help a noob out? What's the difference between waldfuckin and wallglitchin?

Wallfuckin - moving your unit next to your opponents city to prevent him from creating a wall around it

Wallglitchin - replacing your wall units with another units so that your opponent fails in breaking your wall

Ok, thanks dude

Написано Grimm, 30.01.2014 at 21:53

Написано Guest, 30.01.2014 at 20:45

Wallglitching = Any kind of magic or faggotry made, related to walls.
Rewalling = Moving out a wall and make another wall instead.
Serbian rewalling = Taking down a wall and build another wall instead.
Those are the real and correct terms. Rewalling or serbian rewalling are NOT considered as "glitches" because they are NOT. But many people have associated "glitching" with rewalling, so I think we better make it an official term ;/.
If we are talking about REAL "glitches", then yeah, there are ways to break walls without attacking, going through walled cities (as long as you own that city), and maybe it's possible to go through ANY wall, I have made a test game once and I swear I almost did it.

In my opinion, I think there rarely are situations where you move one of your walling units out and replace it. And ok, if there are, it's not a big deal since it's easy to identify if someone did it on purpose or not.

Alex, I understand the term WG no longer applies and that it should be called re-walling, but this is what people have been calling it. More importantly, this is what is being discussed in this thread. Not the other things that are real glitches. Some of the earlier posts:

Написано Indurate, 24.08.2013 at 10:49

It's when you move the units you used to wall to another location, and proceed to wall that particular city from another location. The city remains walled as if nothing happened. Not really a glitch. 90% sure this is the wall 'glitch' khal.eesi is referring to.

Написано tophat, 11.01.2014 at 14:20

It use to be a glitch... literally unbreakable, so they labelled it as a glitch. However, ever since they added wallfucks it is no longer a glitch, so the term "wallglitch" no longer applies. It is simply re-walling, which is a strategic move.

I think you make a valid point about rarely having to move wall units. Still, I can think of a few situations. For example, if I want to move one of my wall units to WF a key city that is out of reach of my other troops. Or if I want to try to TB an AT that is out of reach of other units. Or if I simply want to replace my 3 INF with 3 mili. This last one I do quite often actually - the INF are sent to defend elsewhere and the mili replace them.

Okay I'll start calling it rewalling, spread the word ^^

And no, I find walling with infantries with most strategies a little retarded except for IF and sometimes GW. It's pretty easy to see in the battle results if the guy wanted to do it on purpose or not. Or maybe if the guy wanted to just replace walls he can give a warning before?

Написано Tortuguero, 31.01.2014 at 08:30

Написано Goblin, 31.01.2014 at 04:27

Написано Tortuguero, 30.01.2014 at 22:08

Can someone help a noob out? What's the difference between waldfuckin and wallglitchin?

Wallfuckin - moving your unit next to your opponents city to prevent him from creating a wall around it

Wallglitchin - replacing your wall units with another units so that your opponent fails in breaking your wall

Ok, thanks dude

I'm not gay ;/

Написано Guest, 31.01.2014 at 09:22

Написано Tortuguero, 31.01.2014 at 08:30

Написано Goblin, 31.01.2014 at 04:27

Написано Tortuguero, 30.01.2014 at 22:08

Can someone help a noob out? What's the difference between waldfuckin and wallglitchin?

Wallfuckin - moving your unit next to your opponents city to prevent him from creating a wall around it

Wallglitchin - replacing your wall units with another units so that your opponent fails in breaking your wall

Ok, thanks dude

I'm not gay ;/

Lol Alex

For me the strongest argument for allowing wallglitching is the fact that on occasion I will wallglitch, when wallglitching is not my intent. For example: lets say you are playing 1 v 1 Poland and you wall Berlin. Next turn you capture Berlin, but you want to use those same wall units around Berlin to now wall Hamburg. You have no other units at ur disposal. So you wall Hamburg with ur wall units from Berlin, and you rewall Berlin with units from Czech. Basically wallglitching Belrin. I've done that many times and keep hoping no one goes off and accuses me of wallglitching.


I'm voting for it because

1) there are ppl that will take advantage of it on occasion, gain the upper hand, and other than being enemy listed by you, they face no real repercussions. So it's not really enforceable. Unlike 1st turn wf, your teammates aren't going to quit the game because someone does it. Nor will the understand if you quit because someone does it.

2) wallglitching happens unintentionally on occasion.

Let's just give it a shot. I'll be wallglitching for the month of February in games other than duels or tournaments.

Написано Thunderballs, 31.01.2014 at 14:09

For me the strongest argument for allowing wallglitching is the fact that on occasion I will wallglitch, when wallglitching is not my intent. For example: lets say you are playing 1 v 1 Poland and you wall Berlin. Next turn you capture Berlin, but you want to use those same wall units around Berlin to now wall Hamburg. You have no other units at ur disposal. So you wall Hamburg with ur wall units from Berlin, and you rewall Berlin with units from Czech. Basically wallglitching Belrin. I've done that many times and keep hoping no one goes off and accuses me of wallglitching.


I'm voting for it because

1) there are ppl that will take advantage of it on occasion, gain the upper hand, and other than being enemy listed by you, they face no real repercussions. So it's not really enforceable. Unlike 1st turn wf, your teammates aren't going to quit the game because someone does it. Nor will the understand if you quit because someone does it.

2) wallglitching happens unintentionally on occasion.

Let's just give it a shot. I'll be wallglitching for the month of February in games other than duels or tournaments.

Its really annoying when the other person does it with full intention, and you are not aware that wallglitch existed, i didn't break walls and wf at the same time, until i become aware of the problem.

Now my question is: do wallglitching units have the risk of being turn blocked? If so, how often?

Yeah, but it just came up again in a duel with MrOwnU. I had walled Paris and captured it first turn. On turn 2 I want to replace the infantry with militia from in the city and use my walling infantry to expand. It gets a little awkward.

Написано Thunderballs, 31.01.2014 at 16:33

Yeah, but it just came up again in a duel with MrOwnU. I had walled Paris and captured it first turn. On turn 2 I want to replace the infantry with militia from in the city and use my walling infantry to expand. It gets a little awkward.

Can't you just tell before doing it, so the other one puts a wf unit instead?
I know it's not a good way to solve this but wallglitches are so annoying.

I'm pretty sure admins didn't want AW to work like this. They do know this is possible but they can't find a way to fix it.

p.s:lol youre gei why did you wall france, stop wasting your units

I know its annoying when you playing, and you are preparing urself to cap ur opponent next turn, and for ur surprise he (wallgliched). well you just have to be prepared for that, (wallgliching) takes 3 extra units to build the new wall, to stop it from happening you only need one unit, the problem on the players that dont like wallgliching, is either they lazy to keep in mind the possibility of the oponent (wallgliching) and place a unit wfing, or they dont have the skill to use (wallgliches) themselfs, during the quick game, and so they hate who does against them.
its also annoying if you get capped because ur opponent tb ur defending stack, but it happends, and i dont see anyone complaining about tbs...tbs are based on luck, (wallgliching) has nothing to do with luck, you always have a chace to stop it...
serbian wall, works same way, to make a serbian wall you need enough bombers to kill enemy wall, and another 3 units to rewall, and again to prevent it from happening you just need one unit wfing ur wall. or better, make a (zizzou wall), 4 men unit, pretty effective to stop serbian wall.
but ppl get frustrated and buthurt with it because they not expecting it, so they decide to say that is ilegal, is a glich, or is playing dirty. fair enough, we cant stop it, there will always be ppl doing this, some will agree, other wont, i dont think we should debate this anymore, there will always be 2 sides.
i learned how to (wallglich) by watching higher ranks and better players then me doing it. so i (wallglich) i use serbian wall, unless im playing on a tournament where the rules dont allow me to. and i encorage every player that plays against me to (wallglich) or do the serbian wall .

Написано lOrd pOnteZ, 31.01.2014 at 19:58

I know its annoying when you playing, and you are preparing urself to cap ur opponent next turn, and for ur surprise he (wallgliched). well you just have to be prepared for that, (wallgliching) takes 3 extra units to build the new wall, to stop it from happening you only need one unit, the problem on the players that dont like wallgliching, is either they lazy to keep in mind the possibility of the oponent (wallgliching) and place a unit wfing, or they dont have the skill to use (wallgliches) themselfs, during the quick game, and so they hate who does against them.
its also annoying if you get capped because ur opponent tb ur defending stack, but it happends, and i dont see anyone complaining about tbs...tbs are based on luck, (wallgliching) has nothing to do with luck, you always have a chace to stop it...
serbian wall, works same way, to make a serbian wall you need enough bombers to kill enemy wall, and another 3 units to rewall, and again to prevent it from happening you just need one unit wfing ur wall. or better, make a (zizzou wall), 4 men unit, pretty effective to stop serbian wall.
but ppl get frustrated and buthurt with it because they not expecting it, so they decide to say that is ilegal, is a glich, or is playing dirty. fair enough, we cant stop it, there will always be ppl doing this, some will agree, other wont, i dont think we should debate this anymore, there will always be 2 sides.
i learned how to (wallglich) by watching higher ranks and better players then me doing it. so i (wallglich) i use serbian wall, unless im playing on a tournament where the rules dont allow me to. and i encorage every player that plays against me to (wallglich) or do the serbian wall .

This.

Написано lOrd pOnteZ, 31.01.2014 at 19:58

I know its annoying when you playing, and you are preparing urself to cap ur opponent next turn, and for ur surprise he (wallgliched). well you just have to be prepared for that, (wallgliching) takes 3 extra units to build the new wall, to stop it from happening you only need one unit, the problem on the players that dont like wallgliching, is either they lazy to keep in mind the possibility of the oponent (wallgliching) and place a unit wfing, or they dont have the skill to use (wallgliches) themselfs, during the quick game, and so they hate who does against them.
its also annoying if you get capped because ur opponent tb ur defending stack, but it happends, and i dont see anyone complaining about tbs...tbs are based on luck, (wallgliching) has nothing to do with luck, you always have a chace to stop it...
serbian wall, works same way, to make a serbian wall you need enough bombers to kill enemy wall, and another 3 units to rewall, and again to prevent it from happening you just need one unit wfing ur wall. or better, make a (zizzou wall), 4 men unit, pretty effective to stop serbian wall.
but ppl get frustrated and buthurt with it because they not expecting it, so they decide to say that is ilegal, is a glich, or is playing dirty. fair enough, we cant stop it, there will always be ppl doing this, some will agree, other wont, i dont think we should debate this anymore, there will always be 2 sides.
i learned how to (wallglich) by watching higher ranks and better players then me doing it. so i (wallglich) i use serbian wall, unless im playing on a tournament where the rules dont allow me to. and i encorage every player that plays against me to (wallglich) or do the serbian wall .

You can't compare sparing 1 extra unit from a huge stack just before you cap him, with breaking 5 walls in same turn.
Serbian rewalling does not need bombers, you can do that with 3 infs instead but it's hard, you could use 5 or 6 for a better chance.
And it is possible to break walls with 1 unit without attacking, EVEN if the other one wallglitches. Yes, you can prevent wallglitch with no extra units. But it's a glitchy bug which is faggy.
Wallglitch is unfair, that's my point.

Написано Goblin, 01.02.2014 at 08:43

Написано lOrd pOnteZ, 31.01.2014 at 19:58

they dont have the skill to use (wallgliches) themselfs, during the quick game

Skill? ... ...are you fuckin serious? ...dont even answer ...jesus.

Btw. anyone who uses serbian fuckin rewall is a cunt ...period. I was among first to know about that shit and my first thought was "i will never use this" and "i hope most people dont figure out this shit" becuase cunts will use it!!!

is its a skill, to combine and apply all ur knowledge in a 4 min turn, not just the (wallgliching/serbian wall), its a skill to remeber and manage to use the units to attack, defend, tb, wf, wg, sw, wall, all in a 4 minutes turn its a skill.
yeah call me a cunt, or whatever you like, ur opinion is meanigless to me

Написано Guest, 31.01.2014 at 21:02

Написано lOrd pOnteZ, 31.01.2014 at 19:58

You can't compare sparing 1 extra unit from a huge stack just before you cap him, with breaking 5 walls in same turn.
Serbian rewalling does not need bombers, you can do that with 3 infs instead but it's hard, you could use 5 or 6 for a better chance.
And it is possible to break walls with 1 unit without attacking, EVEN if the other one wallglitches. Yes, you can prevent wallglitch with no extra units. But it's a glitchy bug which is faggy.
Wallglitch is unfair, that's my point.

its true you dont need bombers to do the serbian wall, but if you use units such inf or any unit capable of creating defence lines, you take the risk that next turn, the units you used to attack the enemy wall are combined with the ones you used to rewall, and if so ur wall wont be standing, to make sure you dont miss serbian wall, you need to use units that cant create defensive lines to destroy enemy wall, such as bombers or stealth units

Написано lOrd pOnteZ, 01.02.2014 at 11:26

Написано Goblin, 01.02.2014 at 08:43

Написано lOrd pOnteZ, 31.01.2014 at 19:58

they dont have the skill to use (wallgliches) themselfs, during the quick game

Skill? ... ...are you fuckin serious? ...dont even answer ...jesus.

Btw. anyone who uses serbian fuckin rewall is a cunt ...period. I was among first to know about that shit and my first thought was "i will never use this" and "i hope most people dont figure out this shit" becuase cunts will use it!!!

is its a skill, to combine and apply all ur knowledge in a 4 min turn, not just the (wallgliching/serbian wall), its a skill to remeber and manage to use the units to attack, defend, tb, wf, wg, sw, wall, all in a 4 minutes turn its a skill.
yeah call me a cunt, or whatever you like, ur opinion is meanigless to me

I do not see it as "skills" at all. First, like I said admins didn't want walls to work like this. Second, it's an unafir move as you only use the militias from the city (3 extras which you can just recover next turn, no units die), while the enemy needs 1 to break the wall and 1 to wallfuck. Good luck anyway, I really doubt these people will ever accept it's a faggy and dicky move, and admins are not gonna do anything about it because they think tophats is always right (he is but not this time).
I don't really care about this anymore, Imma glitch on glitchers, nuff said.

Написано Thunderballs, 31.01.2014 at 14:09

For me the strongest argument for allowing wallglitching is the fact that on occasion I will wallglitch, when wallglitching is not my intent. For example: lets say you are playing 1 v 1 Poland and you wall Berlin. Next turn you capture Berlin, but you want to use those same wall units around Berlin to now wall Hamburg. You have no other units at ur disposal. So you wall Hamburg with ur wall units from Berlin, and you rewall Berlin with units from Czech. Basically wallglitching Belrin. I've done that many times and keep hoping no one goes off and accuses me of wallglitching.

I'm voting for it because
1) there are ppl that will take advantage of it on occasion, gain the upper hand, and other than being enemy listed by you, they face no real repercussions. So it's not really enforceable. Unlike 1st turn wf, your teammates aren't going to quit the game because someone does it. Nor will the understand if you quit because someone does it.
2) wallglitching happens unintentionally on occasion.

This is more or less what I've been saying. You can't really enforce a ban on WG. The other player can always say he wanted to use the wall units elsewhere.