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Сообщение от Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

24.09.2016 - 11:42
 Witch-Doctor (Мод)
4 to rome
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24.09.2016 - 11:48
Reinforcements will be sent to egypt, but we must replace the lackluster generals first.

4 to rome
3 on equite
rest to bank

Цитировать:

Why add NPCs? Clearly nobody wants to be governor seeing as nobody wanted to accept governor role. Please remove them players should feel the consequences of not having governors in rich provinces.

They are staying as long as we have less than 20+ senators like the game its based on. A new person joined so now its 2 npc

and this is from pavle

Цитировать:

6 on equite 6 to bank
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24.09.2016 - 12:07
What happened to Armenia? I could've sworn it was there last turn
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24.09.2016 - 12:29
6 on equite
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24.09.2016 - 13:03
 JF.
Trial of death for the murder of my father
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24.09.2016 - 13:03
 JF.
Witness evidence shown soon
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24.09.2016 - 13:06
Titus Labienus join populares,also he spend 3 talents on equites and the other goes to Rome
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24.09.2016 - 13:12
Написано Labienus, 24.09.2016 at 13:06

Titus Labienus join populares,also he spend 3 talents on equites and the other goes to Rome


I don't wanna play the 'unfair unfair unfair' card but 72 votes for Populares vs 48 votes for Potestatem is pretty ridiculous

Edit: Populares did not invite, so don't complain, just responding to Labienus' decision
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24.09.2016 - 13:19
I mamke my first step here I don't really know how to join a factions but to balance I can go potestatem if needed
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24.09.2016 - 13:24
Написано Labienus, 24.09.2016 at 13:19

I mamke my first step here I don't really know how to join a factions but to balance I can go potestatem if needed


You're fine I just thought it was op to give 24 vote advantage to one side when neutrals (even including everybody's pal Tunder) would only be able to tie a vote if they all decided to support potestatem
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24.09.2016 - 13:58
Factions are balanced by numbers at the moment, limiting them to 6 would be reasonable. Its not like populares need the extra strengh to stay dominant.
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24.09.2016 - 18:18
Написано Phoenix, 24.09.2016 at 13:58

Factions are balanced by numbers at the moment, limiting them to 6 would be reasonable. Its not like populares need the extra strengh to stay dominant.


Vote for Phoenix for Rome's Priest
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24.09.2016 - 20:06
==Turn 19: Phase 2 has begun==
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24.09.2016 - 20:15
 JF.
Consul Vote
2) Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) & Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Censor Vote
1)Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius)

Praetor Vote
1)Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Replace Sextus Varius (Meester) as commander of the 2nd Roman Syrian war with?
2) Nay

Governor of Africa
2)Nay

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
2)Nay

Levying of Forces
1) Raise 6 Legions

Force Deployments
1)First Cilician War: Legio XII Hispana, Legio XV Lupus, 5 Legions
2nd Roman Syrian War: Legio XVII Baltica, Legio I Pungo, Legio V Macedonica, 4 Legions
Reserves:Legio Evocati VII Aquila, Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria, Legio III Victrix - From Cilician war, Legio XXI Obeliscus

Trial of Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)
2)Gulity
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24.09.2016 - 20:15
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) & Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote
2)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Censor was actually an accident, forgot to nominate people

Praetor Vote
1)Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Consuls have chosen not to replace mrarmy as command of cilician war
No appointment for 1st mithridatic war

Replace Sextus Varius (Meester) as commander of the 2nd Roman Syrian war with?
1)Consul Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) [Populares]

Governor of Africa
1)Andertius Paullus (Pavle )

He might as well develop Africa while he's not doing anything

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1)Titus Labienus (Labienus)

Levying of Forces
1) Raise 6 Legions

Force Deployments
1)First Cilician War: Legio XII Hispana, Legio XV Lupus, 5 Legions
2nd Roman Syrian War: Legio XVII Baltica, Legio I Pungo, Legio V Macedonica, 4 Legions
Reserves:Legio Evocati VII Aquila, Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria, Legio III Victrix - From Cilician war, Legio XXI Obeliscus

This was intended to conserve our Vets for next turn when we engage Mithridates. Make fluff legions that can be easily replaced in the event of a disaster, then next turn when we (likely) get Sulla, and Mithridates no longer leads his army we can easily kill it with 0 chance of a disaster.

Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

I'm being a greedy guy this turn, I just spent 44 talents on rome in the past 2 turns from my only concession which rarely benefits me. So in a way you're all just going to be voting for +2 money to Treasury by this

Also Phoenix I was going to send you JF's Evocati, but without hearing that it would be alright to risk it like that from him I decided to spare him the devastation of losing an evocati legion... A moment for Legio Evocati Fulminata please.
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24.09.2016 - 20:19
Sertorious questions the Censor:

May I ask that the person who provided this evidence on the scroll be brought forth as a witness? If not, an anonymous source is hearsay and should be dismissed as well as the entire trial."
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24.09.2016 - 20:23
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Vote along line of faction leader.

Trial of Death:
Not guilty. No actual proof of murder.
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24.09.2016 - 20:32




Populares getting other Populares in trouble, hahaha
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24.09.2016 - 20:39
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Написано Tundy, 24.09.2016 at 20:32





Populares getting other Populares in trouble, hahaha


That is nothing more than playful banter between me and JF. We used to be in the same faction you know.
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24.09.2016 - 20:41
Написано Witch-Doctor, 24.09.2016 at 20:39

That is nothing more than playful banter between me and JF. We used to be in the same faction you know.


Написано Witch-Doctor, 24.09.2016 at 20:23

Vote along line of faction leader.

Trial of Death:
Not guilty. No actual proof of murder.


Yet you didn't came forward to deny such evidence until I ousted you out, even to Aetius wanted to know who did this.
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24.09.2016 - 20:42
^This is extremely troublesome


Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) & Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote
1)Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius)

Praetor Vote
2)Tiberius Octavius (vale)

Replace Sextus Varius (Meester) as commander of the 2nd Roman Syrian war with?
1)Consul Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) [Populares]

Governor of Africa
1)Andertius Paullus (Pavle )

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1)Titus Labienus (Labienus)

Levying of Forces
1

Force Deployments
1
Trial of Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)
1) Innocent

Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 ) favored by Aetius + 20 votes
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24.09.2016 - 20:49
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Написано Tundy, 24.09.2016 at 20:41

Написано Witch-Doctor, 24.09.2016 at 20:39

That is nothing more than playful banter between me and JF. We used to be in the same faction you know.


Написано Witch-Doctor, 24.09.2016 at 20:23

Vote along line of faction leader.

Trial of Death:
Not guilty. No actual proof of murder.


Yet you didn't came forward to deny such evidence until I ousted you out, even to Aetius wanted to know who did this.


Chatter between friends is evidence?
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24.09.2016 - 21:00
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Написано Tundy, 24.09.2016 at 20:52

Написано Witch-Doctor, 24.09.2016 at 20:49

Написано Tundy, 24.09.2016 at 20:41

Написано Witch-Doctor, 24.09.2016 at 20:39

That is nothing more than playful banter between me and JF. We used to be in the same faction you know.


Написано Witch-Doctor, 24.09.2016 at 20:23

Vote along line of faction leader.

Trial of Death:
Not guilty. No actual proof of murder.


Yet you didn't came forward to deny such evidence until I ousted you out, even to Aetius wanted to know who did this.


Chatter between friends is evidence?


Explain why then, the censor (your friend) has decided to use such evidence to jail one of your fellow populare members and then you (the Praetor) went along with it to persecute and slander him.


Innocent until proven guilty. My verdict is not guilty since my banter alone is not proof of anything.
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24.09.2016 - 21:38
Consul Vote
2) Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) & Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Censor Vote
2)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Praetor Vote
1)Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Replace Sextus Varius (Meester) as commander of the 2nd Roman Syrian war with?
2) Nay

Governor of Africa
2)Nay

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1)Titus Labienus (Labienus)

Levying of Forces
1) Raise 6 Legions

Force Deployments
3)First Cilician War: Legio XII Hispana, Legio XV Lupus, Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions
2nd Syrian-Roman War: Legio XVII Baltica, Legio I Pungo, Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria, 3 Legions

Trial of Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)
2)Gulity

Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )
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25.09.2016 - 00:28
Consul Vote
2) Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) & Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)

Censor Vote
2)Lucius Caetronianus (MrArmy987)

Praetor Vote
1)Cassius Caelius (Safari)

Replace Sextus Varius (Meester) as commander of the 2nd Roman Syrian war with?
2) Nay

Governor of Africa
2)Nay

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1)Titus Labienus (Labienus)

Levying of Forces
1) Raise 6 Legions

Force Deployments
3)First Cilician War: Legio XII Hispana, Legio XV Lupus, Legio III Victrix, 4 Legions
2nd Syrian-Roman War: Legio XVII Baltica, Legio I Pungo, Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria, 3 Legions

Trial of Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)
2)Gulity

Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )
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25.09.2016 - 00:32
Absurd proposal by the consuls to replace a 3 military skill with a one with 2 military skill another attempt by Popularus to consolidate power
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25.09.2016 - 00:39
Написано Meester, 25.09.2016 at 00:32

Absurd proposal by the consuls to replace a 3 military skill with a one with 2 military skill another attempt by Popularus to consolidate power

Field Consul bonus gives him 4 military skill. Also he's automatically nominated for command because of his position. Stop seeing conspiracies everywhere
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25.09.2016 - 01:10
Consul: 2
Censor: 2
Praetor: 1
Roman-Syrian: 2
Africa: 2
Cisalpine Gaul: 2
Levying: 1
Force Deployment: 1
Trial: 2
Tax: Lucius Caetronianus
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25.09.2016 - 05:56
Consul Vote
2) Optimus Maximus (Google Chrome) & Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)
Censor vote
1)Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius)
Praetor vote
1)Cassius Caelius (Safari)
Replace Sextus Varius (Meester) as commander of the 2nd Roman Syrian war with?
1)Consul Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) [Populares]
Governor of Africa
1)Andertius Paullus (Pavle )
Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1)Titus Labienus (Labienus)
Force Deployments
1)First Cilician War: Legio XII Hispana, Legio XV Lupus, 5 Legions
1) Innocent
Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
Publius Numertorius (JF)
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25.09.2016 - 06:27
Consul Vote
1) Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) & Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 )

Censor Vote
1)Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius)

Praetor Vote
2)Tiberius Octavius (vale)

Replace Sextus Varius (Meester) as commander of the 2nd Roman Syrian war with?
1)Consul Quintus Sertorius Numidicus (Aetius) [Populares]

Governor of Africa
1)Andertius Paullus (Pavle )

Governor of Cisalpine Gaul
1)Titus Labienus (Labienus)

Levying of Forces
1

Force Deployments
1
Trial of Galerius Nipius ( Death1816)
1) Innocent

Tax Farmer 6 +2 talents
Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 ) favored by Aetius + 20 votes
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