Hellykin and Free_warrior's dream world

These guys love conservatism so much that they want anything remotely considered left to be destroyed.

So lets talk about the dream world they want to live in. That would be the gilded age in America, a time where conservatism was king and the US's economy was booming from the second industrial revolution.

Lets see some aspects of life in their conservative wet dream.

• No civil rights movements so women cant vote etc... Irish were still considered subhumans and unless you were "pure" white you were considered subhuman.
• Most people working in some dirty factory for very little pay in horrible conditions. No minimum wage, no workers rights or regulations, long working hours, no union or strikes since the government sided with the companies. Companies could do whatever the fuck they wanted.
• No entitlement programs, ie no social security no medicare nothing like that. You lose your job, you're done for.
• Huge restrictions on immigrants, illiterate werent allowed, strict quotas on certain races of people allowed in.
•Overcrowded cities that are heavily segregated based on race. Huge amounts of crime due to overpopulation and poverty.


But hey that sounds great because you dont have to deal with some progressive who wants gays to get married right?

Sigh, where to start...

1. Bunch of civil rights movement today, but still no concrete rights or enforcement of them.
2. People still work in dirty factories for less than minimum wage.
3. Government deny entitlements in atleast half of cases, so those in need still don't recieve welfare.
4. Cities are still overcrowded, segregated(ghettos), crime and poverty is huge.

And that's today, during liberalism era.

We miss you in the game please come back

Написано Skanderbeg, 22.08.2017 at 16:01

Sigh, where to start...

1. Bunch of civil rights movement today, but still no concrete rights or enforcement of them.
2. People still work in dirty factories for less than minimum wage.
3. Government deny entitlements in atleast half of cases, so those in need still don't recieve welfare.
4. Cities are still overcrowded, segregated(ghettos), crime and poverty is huge.

And that's today, during liberalism era.

1. I see gays get married and women voting but okay whatever you say.
2. Nope, people are mostly working white collar jobs with benefits such as minimum wage etc... You dont live or work here so you dont have a clue how anything works.
3. You got proof for this mate? Oh wait there's the problem of you not living here and understanding how entitlement works.
4. Wrong, america is mostly suburb
with huge stretches of open land.

All of this can be summed up in one sentence,

"Clueless russian tool trying to imagine life in america based off of propaganda he's seen in his life."

A good future
Add slavery too and it will be golden age for america

"Xaxaxa if you belive slightly in conservatism you must support racism xaxax"

Написано Witch-Doctor, 22.08.2017 at 16:29

1. I see gays get married and women voting but okay whatever you say.
2. Nope, people are mostly working white collar jobs with benefits such as minimum wage etc... You dont live or work here so you dont have a clue how anything works.
3. You got proof for this mate? Oh wait there's the problem of you not living here and understanding how entitlement works.
4. Wrong, america is mostly suburb
with huge stretches of open land.

All of this can be summed up in one sentence,

"Clueless russian tool trying to imagine life in america based off of propaganda he's seen in his life."

I don't need to live there to know. You live there and you're still retarded (seriously how stupid you are for posting that shit above)

Michael Moore interviewed enough Americans, who are denied entitlements (oh yes mate, i know how they work in America, maybe better than yourself, child), mostly retired persons denied state-cover for medicine and veterans denied healthcare (if they are wounded, then it's auto-rejection). People call him socialist, but only the retarded part of America, who can't understand that interview means letting people talk, not holding monologue about ideology.

About the rest, seriously, most people work white collar job? Did you smoke squirrels? If white collar job means office and every other service industry beside scientists and scholars, then yes.

Gays and perverts can marry because Obama forced that law upon whole America, not because people choose so democratically as US federation allows (50 states). So if that's your liberalism, than i shit on it you fucker.

Women didn't vote before, but still couples were equal because they were normal and not corrupted by modern shit we have today. When men voted, their wives and family could influence the vote since they talk about it at home unlike today when we alienated each other. Therefore, that was family vote, over individualist vote.

About America mostly suburb, sure, i see it, and i compare it with suburb America of the 50's and 60's. I compare it to the developing middle class towns and todays crumbling infrastructure in decaying neigbhorhoods ridden with crime.

Not to mention wages stopped growing in 1971 and todays generation earn less than their parents during Cold War. You young liberal fuckers are not capable of living in a high HDi/GDP country and you only know to complain. Your parents and grandparents built nuclear bomb and you cannot make plastic toy. Embarassing really.

Negroes indeed were enslaved, and that was crime agaisnt humanity, but that is over now and they have same rights as others. I can understand my people playing that card against USA because we're atwar, but Americans using that card against America... retarded.


All this can be summed up in one sentence:

'Clueless brainwashed liberal cunt trying to debate something based off of mainstream propaganda he's seen in his life.'

Написано Skanderbeg, 22.08.2017 at 19:40

Написано Witch-Doctor, 22.08.2017 at 16:29

1. I see gays get married and women voting but okay whatever you say.
2. Nope, people are mostly working white collar jobs with benefits such as minimum wage etc... You dont live or work here so you dont have a clue how anything works.
3. You got proof for this mate? Oh wait there's the problem of you not living here and understanding how entitlement works.
4. Wrong, america is mostly suburb
with huge stretches of open land.

All of this can be summed up in one sentence,

"Clueless russian tool trying to imagine life in america based off of propaganda he's seen in his life."

I don't need to live there to know. You live there and you're still retarded (seriously how stupid you are for posting that shit above)

Michael Moore interviewed enough Americans, who are denied entitlements (oh yes mate, i know how they work in America, maybe better than yourself, child), mostly retired persons denied state-cover for medicine and veterans denied healthcare (if they are wounded, then it's auto-rejection). People call him socialist, but only the retarded part of America, who can't understand that interview means letting people talk, not holding monologue about ideology.

About the rest, seriously, most people work white collar job? Did you smoke squirrels? If white collar job means office and every other service industry beside scientists and scholars, then yes.

Gays and perverts can marry because Obama forced that law upon whole America, not because people choose so democratically as US federation allows (50 states). So if that's your liberalism, than i shit on it you fucker.

Women didn't vote before, but still couples were equal because they were normal and not corrupted by modern shit we have today. When men voted, their wives and family could influence the vote since they talk about it at home unlike today when we alienated each other. Therefore, that was family vote, over individualist vote.

About America mostly suburb, sure, i see it, and i compare it with suburb America of the 50's and 60's. I compare it to the developing middle class towns and todays crumbling infrastructure in decaying neigbhorhoods ridden with crime.

Not to mention wages stopped growing in 1971 and todays generation earn less than their parents during Cold War. You young liberal fuckers are not capable of living in a high HDi/GDP country and you only know to complain. Your parents and grandparents built nuclear bomb and you cannot make plastic toy. Embarassing really.

Negroes indeed were enslaved, and that was crime agaisnt humanity, but that is over now and they have same rights as others. I can understand my people playing that card against USA because we're atwar, but Americans using that card against America... retarded.


All this can be summed up in one sentence:

'Clueless brainwashed liberal cunt trying to debate something based off of mainstream propaganda he's
seen in his life.'

"Dumb russian who is consistently called out on his bullshit claims to know more about America than people who live in the heartland of America."

Most of the things you say are made up bullshit that you would hear from drunk people in a bar.

Stop drinking the kool aid straight from Putin's dick.

Tbh most liberals in the usa are socialist and socialist is another word for communist United Soviet Socialist Republics USSR. Im a Republican, i am a Christian so I don't believe in Gay Marriage. I believe it as a sin, but people have their own views. i don't know where you think that usa being more conservative wouldve meant that women cant vote. Btw around late 1800s Republicans and Democrats swapped their views or something, someone shouldlook into that. I have no problem with immigration, but illegal immigration must be stopped. Isnt Medicare the thing that people back then used and the debt from then is what our taxes is going towards today? It was that or something similar. I live in the US so i know whats going on and tbh Hillary was a bitch who let people die in Benghazi, i was a Cruz supporter, but i went with Trump because I hated Hillary. People need to unite and stop bickering over useless shit. this was my opinion.

Написано Cheerfultitanic, 22.08.2017 at 21:04

Tbh most liberals in the usa are socialist and socialist is another word for communist United Soviet Socialist Republics USSR. Im a Republican, i am a Christian so I don't believe in Gay Marriage. I believe it as a sin, but people have their own views. i don't know where you think that usa being more conservative wouldve meant that women cant vote. Btw around late 1800s Republicans and Democrats swapped their views or something, someone shouldlook into that. I have no problem with immigration, but illegal immigration must be stopped. Isnt Medicare the thing that people back then used and the debt from then is what our taxes is going towards today? It was that or something similar. I live in the US so i know whats going on and tbh Hillary was a bitch who let people die in Benghazi, i was a Cruz supporter, but i went with Trump because I hated Hillary. People need to unite and stop bickering over useless shit. this was my opinion.

No democrat wants illegal immigration. Obama has deported more people than any other presidents.

Написано Witch-Doctor, 22.08.2017 at 22:08

Написано Cheerfultitanic, 22.08.2017 at 21:04

Tbh most liberals in the usa are socialist and socialist is another word for communist United Soviet Socialist Republics USSR. Im a Republican, i am a Christian so I don't believe in Gay Marriage. I believe it as a sin, but people have their own views. i don't know where you think that usa being more conservative wouldve meant that women cant vote. Btw around late 1800s Republicans and Democrats swapped their views or something, someone shouldlook into that. I have no problem with immigration, but illegal immigration must be stopped. Isnt Medicare the thing that people back then used and the debt from then is what our taxes is going towards today? It was that or something similar. I live in the US so i know whats going on and tbh Hillary was a bitch who let people die in Benghazi, i was a Cruz supporter, but i went with Trump because I hated Hillary. People need to unite and stop bickering over useless shit. this was my opinion.

No democrat wants illegal immigration. Obama has deported more people than any other presidents.

Duel?

Написано Witch-Doctor, 22.08.2017 at 15:53

These guys love conservatism so much that they want anything remotely considered left to be destroyed.

So lets talk about the dream world they want to live in. That would be the gilded age in America, a time where conservatism was king and the US's economy was booming from the second industrial revolution.

Lets see some aspects of life in their conservative wet dream.

• No civil rights movements so women cant vote etc... Irish were still considered subhumans and unless you were "pure" white you were considered subhuman.
• Most people working in some dirty factory for very little pay in horrible conditions. No minimum wage, no workers rights or regulations, long working hours, no union or strikes since the government sided with the companies. Companies could do whatever the fuck they wanted.
• No entitlement programs, ie no social security no medicare nothing like that. You lose your job, you're done for.
• Huge restrictions on immigrants, illiterate werent allowed, strict quotas on certain races of people allowed in.
•Overcrowded cities that are heavily segregated based on race. Huge amounts of crime due to overpopulation and poverty.


But hey that sounds great because you dont have to deal with some progressive who wants gays to get married right?

How about I lay some perspective?
I 100% Support civil rights, all men are created equally at birth, I cant stand when people waste there precious gift of life at all and I detest all of those that do no matter color.

No I don't care where you work, only that you do if you are capable. Dirty factories are long gone in our modern era, they are as clean as hospitals and the hard work is done by factory equipment, and if an industry has yet to modernize its factories they must do so or face human rights violations. Raising minimum wage only creates inflation, prices rise faster then the wage. Instead I'd make ponzy banking illegal, put minimum wage nationally at 10.00$ and hour and work on decreasing inflation finally and make your money worth more. I think our laws on work hours are fair anything more then 40 is over time, but no employer should be able to force over time. Unions are a civil right as long as they are there to protect people, when it becomes a cash grab that union should be disbanded. It's moronic you think I'm pro-corporation there is nothing I hate more.

I'd like to keep all social programs intact, I'd like them to be better monitored though. For example you must look for work and be able to prove your looking for work if your able bodied. Self harm should exclude you from government assistance, example heroine addiction, alcoholism, multiple unplanned pregnancies. Drug screening manditory. On a side note Marijuana should be legal and excluded from drug screening.

Immegration is a privilege not a right, and impoverished immegrant don't contribute anything of worth, so unless they can prove there readiness to assimilate into american culture I do not believe they belong here. Democrats are pro immegration because most immigrants that become americans vote democrat from impoverished regions, do to the fact democrats will improve there lives for the sake of gaining votes. No matter the cost to tax payers. Immegration should be no more then five thousand people a year, in order to preserve our culture.

I don't understand how anyone could force people into the cities, I prefer suburbia or the country personally and I'd advocate for people who are young and single to go to school and work in the cities, then move out of the cities to settle down.

What I oppose is corporate America taking over the political left. Which they have 100% they want you dumb cultureless and easily controlled. Tell me this is it easier to run a zoo with lions and tigers bears and wolves, or a farm with sheep and cows? They are working twards creating a society of faceless slaves, and when the microchipping starts you will know there plot is complete. I'm sorry you can't see past there bullshit but it's real and I'll fight it tooth and nail.

Sadly they targeted the left because you guys want extreme cultural change, which is much easier to influence where that change is heading, rather then the right which is entrenched in already established customs, values and laws.

Написано Witch-Doctor, 22.08.2017 at 15:53

These guys love conservatism so much that they want anything remotely considered left to be destroyed.

So lets talk about the dream world they want to live in. That would be the gilded age in America, a time where conservatism was king and the US's economy was booming from the second industrial revolution.

Lets see some aspects of life in their conservative wet dream.

• No civil rights movements so women cant vote etc... Irish were still considered subhumans and unless you were "pure" white you were considered subhuman.
• Most people working in some dirty factory for very little pay in horrible conditions. No minimum wage, no workers rights or regulations, long working hours, no union or strikes since the government sided with the companies. Companies could do whatever the fuck they wanted.
• No entitlement programs, ie no social security no medicare nothing like that. You lose your job, you're done for.
• Huge restrictions on immigrants, illiterate werent allowed, strict quotas on certain races of people allowed in.
•Overcrowded cities that are heavily segregated based on race. Huge amounts of crime due to overpopulation and poverty.


But hey that sounds great because you dont have to deal with some progressive who wants gays to get married right?

Proof or this is the worst bullshit post i have ever seen in any forum......
Its okay to search attention around here but don't do it with pure lies, and pure bullshit because people notice that.
Khal and me never said anything of this, I guess this lies are one of the reasons anyone except few hates you in this community and prob in real life.
Good luck.

Написано Free_Warrior, 23.08.2017 at 06:16

Написано Witch-Doctor, 22.08.2017 at 15:53

These guys love conservatism so much that they want anything remotely considered left to be destroyed.

So lets talk about the dream world they want to live in. That would be the gilded age in America, a time where conservatism was king and the US's economy was booming from the second industrial revolution.

Lets see some aspects of life in their conservative wet dream.

• No civil rights movements so women cant vote etc... Irish were still considered subhumans and unless you were "pure" white you were considered subhuman.
• Most people working in some dirty factory for very little pay in horrible conditions. No minimum wage, no workers rights or regulations, long working hours, no union or strikes since the government sided with the companies. Companies could do whatever the fuck they wanted.
• No entitlement programs, ie no social security no medicare nothing like that. You lose your job, you're done for.
• Huge restrictions on immigrants, illiterate werent allowed, strict quotas on certain races of people allowed in.
•Overcrowded cities that are heavily segregated based on race. Huge amounts of crime due to overpopulation and poverty.


But hey that sounds great because you dont have to deal with some progressive who wants gays to get married right?

Proof or this is the worst bullshit post i have ever seen in any forum......
Its okay to search attention around here but don't do it with pure lies, and pure bullshit because people notice that.
Khal and me never said anything of this, I guess this lies are one of the reasons anyone except few hates
you in this community and prob in real life.
Good luck.

Oh you want some proof? I suggest you open a US history book and tell me im wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age

Написано Helly, 23.08.2017 at 01:24

The truth

Upvoted then read, didn't regret. Also check how Yellow Rose ignored you and replied to Free Warrior who commented after you. Sad prick doesn't have an argument to confront you



PS: i don't quite understand how raising minimum wage creates inflation. If government start spamming more money, that creates inflation, but how can employers giving paycheck to employees create inflation? There's nothing to devalue, since those employers will now work and earn more in order to pay their employees, therefore again creating value which will back the money, no?

Написано Skanderbeg, 23.08.2017 at 11:03

Написано Helly, 23.08.2017 at 01:24

The truth

Upvoted then read, didn't regret. Also check how Yellow Rose ignored you and replied to Free Warrior who commented after you. Sad prick doesn't have an argument to confront you



PS: i don't quite understand how raising minimum wage creates inflation. If government start spamming more money, that creates inflation, but how can employers giving paycheck to employees create inflation? There's nothing to devalue, since those employers will now work and earn more in order to pay their employees, therefore again creating value which will back the money, no?

In order to pay there employees more companies increase there prices. Every time minumum wage goes up, everything else has to go up. Hypothetically let's say a welder makes 10.00$ now minimum wage has increased to 10.00$ He is going expect a wage increase for his skilled trade, because his job is more dificult then a retail associate. It's causes the prices on everything to increase. But not everyone's pay scales with minimum wage so now someone who could survive in 11.00$ no longer can because the prices went up but he still makes 11.00$ it just creates more impoverished people.

Написано Helly, 23.08.2017 at 11:22

In order to pay there employees more companies increase there prices. Every time minumum wage goes up, everything else has to go up.

Not exactly in practice or else everytime prices went up, salaries should have risen accordingly.

Написано RaulPB, 23.08.2017 at 12:02

Написано Helly, 23.08.2017 at 11:22

In order to pay there employees more companies increase there prices. Every time minumum wage goes up, everything else has to go up.

Not exactly in practice or else everytime prices went up, salaries should have risen accordingly.

"Should" But corporate greed makes sure that it never does. Because it's more profitable that way for them.

Написано Helly, 23.08.2017 at 12:08

"Should" But corporate greed makes sure that it never does. Because it's more profitable that way for them.

Yup, totally agreed.... that's precisely why prices would not need to go up if wages also increased

Who the fuck would even make a thread about Free_Warrior and what he has to say, do we really care about what an uninformed attention seeker wants and thinks?

Написано RaulPB, 23.08.2017 at 15:06

Написано Helly, 23.08.2017 at 12:08

"Should" But corporate greed makes sure that it never does. Because it's more profitable that way for them.

Yup, totally agreed.... that's precisely why prices would not need to go up if wages also increased

Incorrect, it's not the same both ways, no one is forcing them to increase prices, they do that on there own In the sneakiest way possible to ensure customers don't outcry. If they are forced to pay out money you can be sure as hell they are going to find a way to return lost profits to there income. I know that's how it works because my own company does it every single time the union negotiates for higher pay.

Написано Helly, 23.08.2017 at 16:41

Incorrect, it's not the same both ways, no one is forcing them to increase prices, they do that on there own In the sneakiest way possible to ensure customers don't outcry. If they are forced to pay out money you can be sure as hell they are going to find a way to return lost profits to there income. I know that's how it works because my own company does it every single time the union negotiates for higher pay.

I said "would not", not that they don't... theory is one thing, practice is another. And as we already said, if something doesn't benefit big companies, they sure won't do it...