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Сообщение от Dragon, 04.05.2014 - 12:07
Atwar community has recently complained about the CW system. They think it is highly unfair to have a clan reaching first place with 100 CPs each game, while the majority have only 50.

Here comes my idea:
1) Abandon 50-100 CPs calculation and adopt another system: A win awards you 3 points and a loss results in a reduction of 2 points, and cw counts has no limit.

That said, 'A' clan has 25 win, 16 loss has a final score of 43 points
'B' clan has 22 win, 3 loss has a final score of 60 points
'C' clan has 10 win, 0 loss has a final score of 30 points
Since CW counts has no limit, 'A' clan and 'C' will keep CW to press 'B' clan. Meanwhile, 'C' clan, having strong results but little gameplay wont get 1st place. Therefore, CW will be stimulated and the season will become more intense.

2) competence is still in count, but is calculated once a year. Highest competence clan get annual champion award, and so on and so forth.
10.07.2014 - 11:19
I think that competence should still exist, but it shouldn't be the default guide for winning CWs.

competence should serve as a tie breaker. Only because I can think of nothing better do so.

Everybody keeps trying to make this so hard and complicated. I say, subtract a clan's losses from it's wins to determine it's true win count. Clans with a higher 'true win count', are higher in ranking.

So clan A and clan B have 75 wins and 20 losses. This means their true win count is 55.
There is a tie, that's why we have competence. I don't like it, but I can't think of any other possible tie breaker that will work 100% of the time.

Clan A has 2.0 comp and Clan B has 3.5 comp.

Clan B wins the season.

Now, I know what you're thinking,
"That doesn't solve anything wwaaahhh"

Of course it doesn't. Nothing will solve that.
But, it forces the coalitions to either a) Fight each other and determine a victor or b) Let the one with the most comp win.

Any other way you look at it, in terms of tie breaking, either you have to have some secondary ranking or scoring system, or you need to have the coalitions face off. That's the only way to determine the victor, the first place. The heavy weight champion, mate.

Anyway, I think it's dumb to make winning a CW worth 3 points and losing worth 2. Be straightforward. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. We shouldn't make things greater or less than what they really are.

If a clan has 10 wins and 4 losses, it's win count is 6.
Another clan with 20 wins and 8 losses, win count is 12.
The latter won more than the former, it wins. Simple.
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11.07.2014 - 20:45
Написано Dr Lecter, 10.07.2014 at 11:19

Simple.


K clan has 50 wins, 0 losses
A clan has 51 wins, 1 losses
L clan has 100 wins, 50 losses
In my opinion, these are not equal.
Regardless of the absolute win/loss values, percentage of win/loss is more important, I think.
All good clans maintain a low loss rate, but, some good clans don't play against clans that they think are beneath them.
Any way that that the subtraction-of-losses-to-get-wins system is implemented, it will not work well.
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12.07.2014 - 00:53
Написано Kaliraa, 11.07.2014 at 20:45

Написано Dr Lecter, 10.07.2014 at 11:19

Simple.


K clan has 50 wins, 0 losses
A clan has 51 wins, 1 losses
L clan has 100 wins, 50 losses
In my opinion, these are not equal.
Regardless of the absolute win/loss values, percentage of win/loss is more important, I think.
All good clans maintain a low loss rate, but, some good clans don't play against clans that they think are beneath them.
Any way that that the subtract%ion-of-losses-to-get-wins system is implemented, it will not work well.


I see your point.
In any case, percentages then, what exactly do you mean? Like. fe. in your model clan K has 100%, A has ~100% and L has 50%?
That would make sense, and I'd be all for that.
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12.07.2014 - 09:29
► We were 1st clan yesterday.
► We played against evoL and won.
► We replaced a +50 victory by a +50, they replaced a +79 with -50.
► They are 1st with 690 CP, we are 2st with 679.

I am also wondering how this CP get calculated, because in 20 games, " It display 11 victory and 9 defeath". This is wrong, in clan page we have 10 victory and 10 defeath:

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12.07.2014 - 11:39
Написано clovis1122, 12.07.2014 at 09:29



Matches played against Mortal Kombat do not count for this season.
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~Goblin

"In this game, everyone is hated."
~Xenosapien
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12.07.2014 - 11:40
Написано Spart, 12.07.2014 at 11:39

Matches played against Mortal Kombat do not count for this season.


OMG YOU MUST BE JOKING
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12.07.2014 - 11:43
Написано clovis1122, 12.07.2014 at 11:40

Написано Spart, 12.07.2014 at 11:39

Matches played against Mortal Kombat do not count for this season.


OMG YOU MUST BE JOKING


Nope. The moderators lubed Mortal Kombat up and penetrated them pretty hard. Either way, hope that explains what happened to you.
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"In atWar you either die a hero or live long enough to ally fag and gang bang some poor bastards."
~Goblin

"In this game, everyone is hated."
~Xenosapien
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12.07.2014 - 12:05
Написано Spart, 12.07.2014 at 11:43

Написано clovis1122, 12.07.2014 at 11:40

Написано Spart, 12.07.2014 at 11:39

Matches played against Mortal Kombat do not count for this season.


OMG YOU MUST BE JOKING


Nope. The moderators lubed Mortal Kombat up and penetrated them pretty hard. Either way, hope that explains what happened to you.


To us* remember we in the same clan ;_;
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12.07.2014 - 12:09
Написано clovis1122, 12.07.2014 at 12:05

Написано Spart, 12.07.2014 at 11:43

Написано clovis1122, 12.07.2014 at 11:40

Написано Spart, 12.07.2014 at 11:39

Matches played against Mortal Kombat do not count for this season.


OMG YOU MUST BE JOKING


Nope. The moderators lubed Mortal Kombat up and penetrated them pretty hard. Either way, hope that explains what happened to you.


To us* remember we in the same clan ;_;


I am lone ranger. Sorry. Because I share the clan tag of the clan I created does not mean I associate myself with the rest of the clan. GG no re.
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"In atWar you either die a hero or live long enough to ally fag and gang bang some poor bastards."
~Goblin

"In this game, everyone is hated."
~Xenosapien
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12.07.2014 - 14:54
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Nope. The moderators lubed Mortal Kombat up and penetrated them pretty hard. Either way, hope that explains what happened to you.
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"Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one"
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