Northern Macedonia

Well, new name for FYROM, is it trolling (from either side greece or macedonia) or they really mean it?

Can there be Greek province named Macedonia and Republic both? Can they coexist?

Can we blame Tito for Macedonian republic? I mean he only asked locals how they want their new republic to be named (in 1945) and they said Macedonia, so he listened. Should he name it otherwise or not let it exist (split between serbia bulgaria or greece)?

I don't know what to think, from 1945 point of view, i guess i would be against, but from 2018, it's hard to deny existance of republic and name which 1.3 million people want.

What does fyrom stand for

Написано boywind2, 14.06.2018 at 15:37

What does fyrom stand for

former yugoslavic republic of macedonia

Написано Skanderbeg, 14.06.2018 at 15:32

Well, new name for FYROM, is it trolling (from either side greece or macedonia) or they really mean it?

Can there be Greek province named Macedonia and Republic both? Can they coexist?

Can we blame Tito for Macedonian republic? I mean he only asked locals how they want their new republic to be named (in 1945) and they said Macedonia, so he listened. Should he name it otherwise or not let it exist (split between serbia bulgaria or greece)?

I don't know what to think, from 1945 point of view, i guess i would be against, but from 2018, it's hard to deny existance of republic and name which 1.3 million people want.

Greece has accepted the new name, Macedonian president hasnt but the parlament voted a majority, still it got vetoed by a few.

Personally im for the new name, if it means my country can join eu and nato, since they are its only salvation.

Greece hasn't accepted the name yet, get your facts straight.

There can be provinces who surpass frontiers who enable coexistence, it happens across Europe with the Basque Country for example or Tyrol nowadays or Jutland in a way, I'm all for the name of North Macedonia, though it's a bit gay and Macedonia as a country itself is a questionable country in its purpose or actual macedonian identity, I mean, the very historical core of Macedonia if I'm correct is in Greek lands soooo

Написано 4nic, 14.06.2018 at 15:51

Greece has accepted the new name, Macedonian president hasnt but the parlament voted a majority, still it got vetoed by a few.

Personally im for the new name, if it means my country can join eu and nato, since they are its only salvation.

Are you willing to trade permanent official name of the nation, for joining economic and military alliance which many say does not have prospect future and it is highly controversial?

Написано Skanderbeg, 14.06.2018 at 16:36

Написано 4nic, 14.06.2018 at 15:51

Greece has accepted the new name, Macedonian president hasnt but the parlament voted a majority, still it got vetoed by a few.

Personally im for the new name, if it means my country can join eu and nato, since they are its only salvation.

Are you willing to trade permanent official name of the nation, for joining economic and military alliance which many say does not have prospect future and it is highly controversial?

we didnt really have a name, anything is better then fyrom
also to answer your question; yes i would

Написано Skanderbeg, 14.06.2018 at 16:36

Написано 4nic, 14.06.2018 at 15:51

Greece has accepted the new name, Macedonian president hasnt but the parlament voted a majority, still it got vetoed by a few.

Personally im for the new name, if it means my country can join eu and nato, since they are its only salvation.

Are you willing to trade permanent official name of the nation, for joining economic and military alliance which many say does not have prospect future and it is highly controversial?

Even if NATO dies, the Europeans would just convey on a European-sized Military Pact, and if Macedonia got in NATO, it means that Macedonia would be internationally integrated in transnational organizations like those

4nic is on weed , don't listen to him.

All the fuss and news is because finally the prime minister of Macedonia (who is part of the ruling left wing party - SDSM) and the greek prime minister agreed on the name.

What they don't tell you though is that the president of Macedonia has to accept it (which at the time i am writing this he came out to say he would never sign it) ,
the parliament needs to vote on it (which the ruling coalition has a majority of with their 50 + 20 seats with the albanian parties they rallied with) but since the change is
constitutional they would need to have majority of 2/3 or 80+ seats and even after all that there will be a referendum around october or november and trust me unless
they rig it or something the people will vote against the new name i am sure of that because people here are very patriotic and take national values seriously.
I guess Greece has to do the similar process as well.

Also we are not FYROM , we were forced to enter with that abbreviation in the UN , the actual constitutional name at this moment and since seceding away from
Yugoslavia is the Republic of Macedonia. So most of the world has accepted us as the Republic of Macedonia including your Russia or wherever you are from.

I think 150+ nations have recognized us as Republic of Macedonia.

Czechia needs to be updated.

I would agree upon Vardaska.

Написано Ghostface, 14.06.2018 at 18:27

4nic is on weed , don't listen to him.

All the fuss and news is because finally the prime minister of Macedonia (who is part of the ruling left wing party - SDSM) and the greek prime minister agreed on the name.

What they don't tell you though is that the president of Macedonia has to accept it (which at the time i am writing this he came out to say he would never sign it) ,
the parliament needs to vote on it (which the ruling coalition has a majority of with their 50 + 20 seats with the albanian parties they rallied with) but since the change is
constitutional they would need to have majority of 2/3 or 80+ seats and even after all that there will be a referendum around october or november and trust me unless
they rig it or something the people will vote against the new name i am sure of that because people here are very patriotic and take national values seriously.
I guess Greece has to do the similar process as well.

Also we are not FYROM , we were forced to enter with that abbreviation in the UN , the actual constitutional name at this moment and since seceding away from
Yugoslavia is the Republic of Macedonia. So most of the world has accepted us as the Republic of Macedonia including your Russia or wherever you are from.

I think 150+ nations have recognized us as Republic of Macedonia.

Respect you are true MACEDONIAN
4nic is traitor

Написано Cold Case, 15.06.2018 at 04:24

I would agree upon Vardaska.

Republic Fuckgreece is better you will be happy
Btw ty for veto and blocks all this years i dont like in nato and eu i hate them
My soul is with Russia
Hail Russia
Hail Republic of Macedonia
Hail tsar Putin

Написано Skanderbeg, 14.06.2018 at 15:32

Well, new name for FYROM, is it trolling (from either side greece or macedonia) or they really mean it?

Can there be Greek province named Macedonia and Republic both? Can they coexist?

Can we blame Tito for Macedonian republic? I mean he only asked locals how they want their new republic to be named (in 1945) and they said Macedonia, so he listened. Should he name it otherwise or not let it exist (split between serbia bulgaria or greece)?

I don't know what to think, from 1945 point of view, i guess i would be against, but from 2018, it's hard to deny existance of republic and name which 1.3 million people want.

FYROM is only for Greece
official country name is REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA

Are North Macedonia and North Korea neighbors ?

Seriously: "Those who are willing to trade their freedom for temporarily safety, will have neither."

Написано avatar, 15.06.2018 at 15:06

Написано Ghostface, 14.06.2018 at 18:27

4nic is on weed , don't listen to him.

All the fuss and news is because finally the prime minister of Macedonia (who is part of the ruling left wing party - SDSM) and the greek prime minister agreed on the name.

What they don't tell you though is that the president of Macedonia has to accept it (which at the time i am writing this he came out to say he would never sign it) ,
the parliament needs to vote on it (which the ruling coalition has a majority of with their 50 + 20 seats with the albanian parties they rallied with) but since the change is
constitutional they would need to have majority of 2/3 or 80+ seats and even after all that there will be a referendum around october or november and trust me unless
they rig it or something the people will vote against the new name i am sure of that because people here are very patriotic and take national values seriously.
I guess Greece has to do the similar process as well.

Also we are not FYROM , we were forced to enter with that abbreviation in the UN , the actual constitutional name at this moment and since seceding away from
Yugoslavia is the Republic of Macedonia. So most of the world has accepted us as the Republic of Macedonia including your Russia or wherever you are from.

I think 150+ nations have recognized us as Republic of Macedonia.

Respect you are true MACEDONIAN
4nic is traitor

im sqiptar

Написано Black Swans, 16.06.2018 at 08:07

Are North Macedonia and North Korea neighbors ?

Seriously: "Those who are willing to trade their freedom for temporarily safety, will have neither."

except that nato and eu arent going to die anytime soon. especially not nato.

Currently macedonia is standing still and the longer it does it will have more problems, both geopolitical and internal.

Id save the patriotism for later; when we join eu we can elect fascist goverments like austria and hungary have

Написано 4nic, 16.06.2018 at 10:00

Написано avatar, 15.06.2018 at 15:06

Написано Ghostface, 14.06.2018 at 18:27

4nic is on weed , don't listen to him.

All the fuss and news is because finally the prime minister of Macedonia (who is part of the ruling left wing party - SDSM) and the greek prime minister agreed on the name.

What they don't tell you though is that the president of Macedonia has to accept it (which at the time i am writing this he came out to say he would never sign it) ,
the parliament needs to vote on it (which the ruling coalition has a majority of with their 50 + 20 seats with the albanian parties they rallied with) but since the change is
constitutional they would need to have majority of 2/3 or 80+ seats and even after all that there will be a referendum around october or november and trust me unless
they rig it or something the people will vote against the new name i am sure of that because people here are very patriotic and take national values seriously.
I guess Greece has to do the similar process as well.

Also we are not FYROM , we were forced to enter with that abbreviation in the UN , the actual constitutional name at this moment and since seceding away from
Yugoslavia is the Republic of Macedonia. So most of the world has accepted us as the Republic of Macedonia including your Russia or wherever you are from.

I think 150+ nations have recognized us as Republic of Macedonia.

Respect you are true MACEDONIAN
4nic is traitor

im sqiptar

*MACEDONIAN siptar

Написано avatar, 15.06.2018 at 15:11

Написано Cold Case, 15.06.2018 at 04:24

I would agree upon Vardaska.

Republic Fuckgreece is better you will be happy
Btw ty for veto and blocks all this years i dont like in nato and eu i hate them
My soul is with Russia
Hail Russia
Hail Republic of Macedonia
Hail tsar Putin

support putin and hate eu = enjoy living in a shithole
maybe REK will get demolished when we join EU

How about Greece just annexes the place and you can be Macedonia all you want

Написано Zephyrusu, 16.06.2018 at 10:35

How about Greece just annexes the place and you can be Macedonia all you want

Then we are all bankrot no ty

Написано avatar, 16.06.2018 at 10:41

Then we are all bankrot no ty

It's ok, if you join we can use all those Albanians as slave labour and pay off the entire debt

Написано Zephyrusu, 16.06.2018 at 10:44

Написано avatar, 16.06.2018 at 10:41

Then we are all bankrot no ty

It's ok, if you join we can use all those Albanians as slave labour and pay off the entire debt

There more albanians in greece than in my country and they are still in bankrot .

Написано avatar, 16.06.2018 at 10:53

There more albanians in greece than in my country and they are still in bankrot .

In Greece, they are scattered throughout the place, and hard to round up. You have them all in one place.

Написано Ghostface, 14.06.2018 at 18:27

4nic is on weed , don't listen to him.

All the fuss and news is because finally the prime minister of Macedonia (who is part of the ruling left wing party - SDSM) and the greek prime minister agreed on the name.

What they don't tell you though is that the president of Macedonia has to accept it (which at the time i am writing this he came out to say he would never sign it) ,
the parliament needs to vote on it (which the ruling coalition has a majority of with their 50 + 20 seats with the albanian parties they rallied with) but since the change is
constitutional they would need to have majority of 2/3 or 80+ seats and even after all that there will be a referendum around october or november and trust me unless
they rig it or something the people will vote against the new name i am sure of that because people here are very patriotic and take national values seriously.
I guess Greece has to do the similar process as well.

Also we are not FYROM , we were forced to enter with that abbreviation in the UN , the actual constitutional name at this moment and since seceding away from
Yugoslavia is the Republic of Macedonia. So most of the world has accepted us as the Republic of Macedonia including your Russia or wherever you are from.

I think 150+ nations have recognized us as Republic of Macedonia.

No Portugal recognition, no name, sorry

Написано 4nic, 16.06.2018 at 10:12

Написано Black Swans, 16.06.2018 at 08:07

Are North Macedonia and North Korea neighbors ?

Seriously: "Those who are willing to trade their freedom for temporarily safety, will have neither."

except that nato and eu arent going to die anytime soon. especially not nato.

Currently macedonia is standing still and the longer it does it will have more problems, both geopolitical and internal.

Id save the patriotism for later; when we join eu we can elect fascist goverments like austria and hungary have

I'd say you should be integrated into Greece, you don't seem very different

North Macedonia is best what FYROM will get.

We have one name

By the Aegean, Macedonians,
by the Vardar, Macedonians
and below Pirin, Macedonians
a glorious name, defiant.

We have one name
in our soul we keep it
we give our lives for you,
Macedonia!

As a carpet, fields,
and mountains stretching to the sky,
golden rivers,
and lakes, pearls.

We have one name
in our soul we keep it
we give our lives for you,
Macedonia!

Mother Macedonia
Balkan beauty,
whoever was born in you
will also give his life for you.

We have one name
in our soul we keep it
we give our lives for you,
Macedonia!

I think i got a solution: what about renaming greek macedonia to 'Macedon' like ancient region, while macedonia rename to 'Makedonia' as most slavic lands sound like that: Slovenia, Slavonia, Slovakia, Bulgaria, ends with 'nia' or 'kia'.

Im aware Greeks also call it 'makedonia' on greek language, but translation on english/american like 'Macedon' makes all the difference.