Why are main MK players banned

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 11:27

Написано Columna Durruti, 21.06.2014 at 07:23

Well, I guess we all know what is fair and what is unfair. Don't we? Do we really need to "define" what are bugs that may be exploited and the ones that shall remain untouched? Are we really that ignorant?
Abusing transports and other naval units to get to the middle of Spain (or any non-port city) is somehow obvious to be "cheating" the way up. Isn't it?
Using bugs to take walled cities is also something that goes way against the very idea behind the existence of walls. Doesn't it?

Using bypasses with transports or bridging land gaps add to the game and even define the protective counter-measures players have developed. They are beneficial bugs that do not attempt against the original battle logic.

Do we really have to discuss this or isn't this matter quite obvious???

I'm a bit disappointed hearing this from a mod tbh. You claim using naval units to bypass land to get to a capital is a bug that should be banned from use, correct? Or is it only limited to getting to the capital of spain? Because the same bug is already accepted in this community. We all use naval units to cross land to get to a country's capital, correct? We roll over Denmark to hit Denmark's cap, Sweden cap, and/or Poland cap, correct? Whether you're bypassing land in Spain or bypassing land in Denmark, you using the same exact bug, just exploiting a different country.

Also, if these bugs add to gameplay and are great for the community, why haven't they become official? Why haven't these passageways been added to the map? Go ask Tik-tok and Tunder3 and im sure they'll tell you it isn't rocket science to add a couple of canals to the map.

My point is, these passageways aren't public knowledge. Only competitive players and those taught by competitive players know how to use these passageways, thus giving an unfair advantage to those who do not know of these passageways. This is against the rules. is it not? But I suppose since Ivan and Amok let you bend the rules as you please, I suppose it really isn't in your mind then.

Написано Acquiesce, 21.06.2014 at 14:09

I'd just like to say I can't believe we are even considering describing water passageways as bugs. They are quite obviously distinct from exploits that give players an advantage in ways not intended by the game designers. You are correct that the majority of new players aren't aware of them but so what? New players also don't know about TB or breaking a WF. How much people know about a move/tactic/skill does not at all determine if it is an exploit.

Написано Acquiesce, 21.06.2014 at 14:09

I'd just like to say I can't believe we are even considering describing water passageways as bugs. They are quite obviously distinct from exploits that give players an advantage in ways not intended by the game designers. You are correct that the majority of new players aren't aware of them but so what? New players also don't know about TB or breaking a WF. How much people know about a move/tactic/skill does not at all determine if it is an exploit.

Написано Acquiesce, 21.06.2014 at 16:49

The passageways are legit just the limits of how much stacks can move over land. I don't even know how you would attempt to say which passages are exploits and which are legit, it's absurdity. To compare these to a legitimate exploit that everyone knows is supposed to be fixed by the admins is nothing short of lunacy. Do you know how to attack a walled city? Just by doing it you intuitively know it is a glitch in the game that isn't supposed to be there. The reason no one realized you can move through the islands of Denmark and declared "wow this is a game glitch better report it" is because it's so obviously not. It's common sense

Написано Helly, 21.06.2014 at 21:35

I fucking hate fockmeard, that is all. only a asshole like fockmeard would arghe these points, hes one of those people that just love to argue.

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Написано Helly, 21.06.2014 at 21:35

I fucking hate fockmeard, that is all. only a asshole like fockmeard would arghe these points, hes one of those people that just love to argue.

Написано Spart, 21.06.2014 at 22:29

Написано Helly, 21.06.2014 at 21:35

I fucking hate fockmeard, that is all. only a asshole like fockmeard would arghe these points, hes one of those people that just love to argue.

This comment is pure...evoL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

Написано Meester, 22.06.2014 at 04:36

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

So the passageway in Brittany, France is a legit canal.



So the Kiel passageway is a legit canal.



So the passageway in Sweden is a legit canal.

Did I miss any?

Написано Acquiesce, 21.06.2014 at 16:49

The passageways are legit just the limits of how much stacks can move over land. I don't even know how you would attempt to say which passages are exploits and which are legit, it's absurdity. To compare these to a legitimate exploit that everyone knows is supposed to be fixed by the admins is nothing short of lunacy. Do you know how to attack a walled city? Just by doing it you intuitively know it is a glitch in the game that isn't supposed to be there. The reason no one realized you can move through the islands of Denmark and declared "wow this is a game glitch better report it" is because it's so obviously not. It's common sense

Написано Meester, 22.06.2014 at 04:36

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

So the passageway in Brittany, France is a legit canal.



So the Kiel passageway is a legit canal.



So the passageway in Sweden is a legit canal.

Did I miss any?

Написано Eagle_alt, 22.06.2014 at 05:06

Написано Meester, 22.06.2014 at 04:36

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

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So the passageway in Brittany, France is a legit canal.

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So the Kiel passageway is a legit canal.

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So the passageway in Sweden is a legit canal.

Did I miss any?

In this picture it shows I can att paris from sea, up in the north. Im banned for that. Why?

Написано JUGERS2, 22.06.2014 at 04:41

Написано Meester, 22.06.2014 at 04:36

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

So the passageway in Brittany, France is a legit canal.



So the Kiel passageway is a legit canal.



So the passageway in Sweden is a legit canal.

Did I miss any?

UK passageways to the west part of UK,Italy passageway to both of south parts,estonia pass to this lake,UK pass to east part of UK.

Написано Meester, 22.06.2014 at 06:50

Yes you can but you can't in game because this passageway is not in the game this is AtWar by the way not CanalWar.

Написано Eagle_alt, 22.06.2014 at 07:39

Well this is no passage way through France to get to Britain, but people found out about it and use it in the game.... I found out how to get to paris from the sea and yet Im banned, Then all the people using passageways should be banned.

As for Chess claim for bypassing walls, as I know there is no evidence that I did any of that

Написано Chess, 22.06.2014 at 07:45

The reason why you got banned for attacking Paris with naval units is simple.
Paris has no port in this game.
So how on earth should it be possible to get into Paris with sea units without using a bug?

Написано Meester, 22.06.2014 at 07:00

Написано JUGERS2, 22.06.2014 at 04:41

Написано Meester, 22.06.2014 at 04:36

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Написано Goblin, 21.06.2014 at 19:36

Oh my fuckin god i wanna slap everyone who is comparing passageways to bugs. Are you retarded or just pretending to be stupid? ...As acquiesce said ...new players dont know about them ...so fuckin triple what??? I didnt know about walls once i started playing , i learned i didnt know troops can leave air transports but instead directly attacked cities with them i learned , i didnt know about passageways i fuckin learned and i had fun and sense of accomplishment by learning this things. morons compare goin trough walls with that??? Wls are suppose to be unpassable what would be the damn purpose of them if you can abuse a bug ...stop acting stupid people.

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

So the passageway in Brittany, France is a legit canal.



So the Kiel passageway is a legit canal.



So the passageway in Sweden is a legit canal.

Did I miss any?

UK passageways to the west part of UK,Italy passageway to both of south parts,estonia pass to this lake,UK pass to east part of UK.

UK is just full of canals and rivers, but if you look closely you can find it.



I'm not sure which one in Italy you'r talking about.

Написано Fockmeeard, 21.06.2014 at 21:59

Since Acqui seems to be beating around the bush with this question, i'll ask you since you seem to feel strongly about this. If these passageways are indeed not a bug and are meant to be a part of the game, why are these passageways not included in the map? Everybody other than you and Acqui believes that passageways are a bug, just a bug that can be used in gameplay. Since it IS a bug, that is why everybody not knowing about it is a crucial element considering that in the rules, you are not allowed to exploit a bug that gives you an unfair advantage. The only way to keep things fair is if both players know how to exploit it.

Написано Acquiesce, 22.06.2014 at 09:50

I'm not beating around the bush I'm actually giving your question far more attention than it deserves. I'm just appalled that you can legitimately be voicing this opinion. I really can't wrap my head around it. Do you also think that moving land units from Germany to Denmark without a transport is a game exploit? All of your arguments lead me to this conclusion. I've been playing this game for more than 3 years and I've come across every glitch and bug and this is very obviously not one of them. It's common sense.

You've derailed a discussion about legitimate bug abuse and moderator accountability and turned into a discussion of canals. So here's what I suggest. Go to the bugs forum and report bug abuse. Say that the majority of AW is abusing the canal glitch and see how far you get with the admins.