When should I give in?

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 16:59

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 15:40

im sorry but this is just complete bullshit, i love 3v3 but saying you learn skill in 3v3 only is bullshit, 3v3 is balanced, talk to me when you win an unbalanced map, like winning ww2 asia as siam against india and china with japan's lands.

i never said you learn skill only in 3v3, i said its where the best competition and skill in aw is to be found. and 3v3s dont encompass the competitive community, but europe+ is the primary setting.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 15:42

yes play manstein with a rank 5 romania against russia, play against tunder, critical, tiktok, myself etc. we would wipe the floor with you

you have a lot to learn marcus.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 17:06

you literally just said the best competition and skill are in 3v3s. if you played RP you would say the same. its completely bias and false. like i said b4 you cant compare apple and pears in categories meant for one of the other. stop making ridiculous claims about who is "the most skilled" portion of the community. the only skill i see is the skill of ignorance which you have a lot of.

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 17:25

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 17:06

you literally just said the best competition and skill are in 3v3s. if you played RP you would say the same. its completely bias and false. like i said b4 you cant compare apple and pears in categories meant for one of the other. stop making ridiculous claims about who is "the most skilled" portion of the community. the only skill i see is the skill of ignorance which you have a lot of.

i did say that and im 100% correct. and i do occasionally play rps believe it or not, i find them amusing. among other scenarios which you dont know i play. unless you stalk me.

its not apples and pears, we're all playing atwar, the same skills apply no matter what map you play.

those that play clanwars duels and tourneys are going to be significantly better than those who dont. this is a fact. you ironically speak of ignorance when your posts reveal your own.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 17:35

ignorance is saying that those types of players are just flat out better than scenario players. you cant claim better and not say at what.

-I am better than you.
-At what?
-idk i just said it there must be something

This is the logic you are applying. I am not saying scenario players are more skilled im saying its a different style of gameplay. In scenarios like ww2, you dont expand into lands (most scenarios run this way) and in FFA scenarios you must use impearistic tactics while assuming a level of diplomacy. CWs on 3v3 or 1v1 dont teach these as well as scenarios do. you also cant us RP as a sum-up of scenarios/custom maps as there are very few of them and are viewed just as bad in the eyes of us as they are to 3v3 players.

EDIT: my posts arent ignorant as i dont say either side is better because you cant compare different styles of players, also apples and pears are both fruits, they have similarities but are not the exact same, such as the style of gameplay needed to master scenarios/custom maps and 3v3

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 17:35

ignorance is saying that those types of players are just flat out better than scenario players. you cant claim better and not say at what.

-I am better than you.
-At what?
-idk i just said it there must be something

This is the logic you are applying. I am not saying scenario players are more skilled im saying its a different style of gameplay. In scenarios like ww2, you dont expand into lands (most scenarios run this way) and in FFA scenarios you must use impearistic tactics while assuming a level of diplomacy. CWs on 3v3 or 1v1 dont teach these as well as scenarios do. you also cant us RP as a sum-up of scenarios/custom maps as there are very few of them and are viewed just as bad in the eyes of us as they are to 3v3 players.

EDIT: my posts arent ignorant as i dont say either side is better because you cant compare different styles of players, also apples and pears are both fruits, they have similarities but are not the exact same, such as the style of gameplay needed to master scenarios/custom maps and 3v3

Написано Desu, 21.11.2013 at 05:38

Here's the thing. You specifically and very few others can possibly make a map work. Some measure of balance can be achieved. Even a perfect imbalance is possible. Not all maps can gain this, not even close. Players spread out playing only custom maps and scenarios won't be playing balanced maps all the time. But the point in the OP is that players do not fully understand game mechanics by playing custom maps or scenarios.

My first point that I will try to describe is that the ones that play 3vs3's or 1vs1's on the standard map learn at a higher level. Learning on the standard map, be it eu+, eurasia, or even world, has its benefits. They play against, play with, and watch higher ranked players micromanage units for 100% efficiency and learn what is possible. Competitive clans teach their new players and lower ranks how to use and get the most out of every viable strategy.

Onto my second point. I can take a decent 3 vs 3(or 1vs1) player around rank 9 that plays on the standard map all the time, and never plays scenarios or custom maps, and make this player start on a map he has never played before. They will grasp the technicalities quickly and be able to match most players who play that very map on a regular basis. As this player gets more playthroughs and learns how every unit works and unit starting positions, they will be able to match most high ranks who play custom maps and scenarios. This is after maybe twenty plays. Easy.

The same cannot be said when you put this into reverse. A custom map/scenario player around rank 9 who has never played the standard map since they were rank 3 will never beat any top tier 3 vs 3 player more than they are beaten. Not even if they had a month. Not even if they had two months. Here's the thing, they will never be better than the already standard elite. I can even pick out low rank 5-6's who play the standard map that will grow to be far stronger than them(or already are) when they reach the same rank(9). In fact, if I somehow convinced Barrymore to return and gave Cow a rank 9 account, annoyed Fruit enough to get online, paid Aristosseur's debt to play, or suddenly VRIL/Bargain started playing again, they would wreck every new player that has reached rank 8+ within the last 6 months in both Custom/scenarios and 3 vs 3s/1vs1's. This is after months of not playing, or not playing regularly.

This is the difference between the so-called competition in custom maps/scenarios, and the standard map. Of course there are those who play both. Enjoy.

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 18:13

they ARE better, this is a fact. i played scenarios and world games up to r8, then entered the competitive scene, where initially i got destroyed by other players in almost every game. the level of gameplay i encountered in the other games was nothing compared to what i found once i began playing in the competitive scene mainly on europe+. even the weaker regular 3v3 players are superior to the better scenario andwhatnot players out there who dont play competitively.

once i entered this scene myself i began to vastly improve.

Написано Professor Adog, 27.07.2014 at 18:20

Hey, I don't see many 3v3s up. Can you tell me if it's just me or is 3v3 a rare thing cos I want to start playing more competitively.

Написано Professor Adog, 27.07.2014 at 18:20

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 18:13

they ARE better, this is a fact. i played scenarios and world games up to r8, then entered the competitive scene, where initially i got destroyed by other players in almost every game. the level of gameplay i encountered in the other games was nothing compared to what i found once i began playing in the competitive scene mainly on europe+. even the weaker regular 3v3 players are superior to the better scenario andwhatnot players out there who dont play competitively.

once i entered this scene myself i began to vastly improve.

Hey, I don't see many 3v3s up. Can you tell me if it's just me or is 3v3 a rare thing cos I want to start playing more competitively.

Написано Tundy, 27.07.2014 at 18:46

Why we don't have trophies? Because we don't join tournaments.. Most of them get full by the time I am aware of their existence.

Why we are not in the list of top players? because only people that play 3 v 3 voted. A popularity contest won't decide who is the best player in atwar lol

>eu 3 v 3
>superior skill

You are delusional, go play a ww2 and see it by yourself.

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 19:07

Написано Tundy, 27.07.2014 at 18:46

Why we don't have trophies? Because we don't join tournaments.. Most of them get full by the time I am aware of their existence.

Why we are not in the list of top players? because only people that play 3 v 3 voted. A popularity contest won't decide who is the best player in atwar lol

>eu 3 v 3
>superior skill

You are delusional, go play a ww2 and see it by yourself.

ive encountered you on maps outside europe+, youre a solid player, better than the others marcus listed(other than tiktok who ive never seen play). but when it comes to deciding between a good and a great player, its the little things a player does that reveals their true level. i could play you on ww2, it might take me a few tries while i get my bearings on that map but i would beat you, in a reverse role you could challenge me on europe+, i would bet it would take you quite sometime to figure out how to beat me. i know this because ive played you and seen your weaknesses.

but this is just speculative ego nonsense.

there are tourneys on maps outside the europe+ setting, if youd any interest in proving yourself you would try them out.

Написано EndsOfInvention, 27.07.2014 at 18:27

Написано Professor Adog, 27.07.2014 at 18:20

Hey, I don't see many 3v3s up. Can you tell me if it's just me or is 3v3 a rare thing cos I want to start playing more competitively.

3v3's are rare because the majority of competitive players throw out anyone they don't know in order to play a game that satisfies them, rather than betters AW. My attempts to host 3v3's where lower ranks can join and to encourage competitive development have almost ubiquitously failed due to no one wanting to play. It's sad really, but a considerable amount competitive players can be condescending and all that but really they are no less selfish than those who only play to get SP. Therefore I am somewhat amused by finding that adog is one of the most morally righteous players. Not sure how relevant this is to anything really, but all this criticism in this thread is really quite pointless. Rather than addressing the problem this thread has once again devolved into an ego war between competitive and scenario players.

Написано Nero, 27.07.2014 at 17:28

NEVER GIVE IN, OR YOU DISHONOR FAMILY!

Написано Professor Adog, 27.07.2014 at 19:25

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 19:07

Написано Tundy, 27.07.2014 at 18:46

Why we don't have trophies? Because we don't join tournaments.. Most of them get full by the time I am aware of their existence.

Why we are not in the list of top players? because only people that play 3 v 3 voted. A popularity contest won't decide who is the best player in atwar lol

>eu 3 v 3
>superior skill

You are delusional, go play a ww2 and see it by yourself.

ive encountered you on maps outside europe+, youre a solid player, better than the others marcus listed(other than tiktok who ive never seen play). but when it comes to deciding between a good and a great player, its the little things a player does that reveals their true level. i could play you on ww2, it might take me a few tries while i get my bearings on that map but i would beat you, in a reverse role you could challenge me on europe+, i would bet it would take you quite sometime to figure out how to beat me. i know this because ive played you and seen your weaknesses.

but this is just speculative ego nonsense.

there are tourneys on maps outside the europe+ setting, if youd any interest in proving yourself you would try them out.

Ok. Illyria, CW?

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 18:13

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 17:35

ignorance is saying that those types of players are just flat out better than scenario players. you cant claim better and not say at what.

-I am better than you.
-At what?
-idk i just said it there must be something

This is the logic you are applying. I am not saying scenario players are more skilled im saying its a different style of gameplay. In scenarios like ww2, you dont expand into lands (most scenarios run this way) and in FFA scenarios you must use impearistic tactics while assuming a level of diplomacy. CWs on 3v3 or 1v1 dont teach these as well as scenarios do. you also cant us RP as a sum-up of scenarios/custom maps as there are very few of them and are viewed just as bad in the eyes of us as they are to 3v3 players.

EDIT: my posts arent ignorant as i dont say either side is better because you cant compare different styles of players, also apples and pears are both fruits, they have similarities but are not the exact same, such as the style of gameplay needed to master scenarios/custom maps and 3v3

i shouldnt have to provide proof, it should be obvious but apparently i do.

its not a different style of gameplay, put diplomacy aside, its not a relevant skill in aw gameplay. lets discuss everything else.

you mention skill involved in ww2, ww2 like in all teamgames including europe+ has sides/country(ies). each side has a specific role, ie it must kill this side, or hold off this other side until turn X, or hold a specific area etc etc.

its not different from any teamgame on aw, you would understand this if you yourself were a better 3v3 player. and once you understand the role of the side youre playing, then your skill and efficiency as a player come into play.

and to further backup my point, that greatest aw players thread lists mainly compeitive 3v3 players as the greatest, i see few known scenario players in that list

furthermore all tourney games on aw are won once again by these same players, i see no tourney trophies on tiktoks critical tunder or even your own wall since you specifically listed these players.

they ARE better, this is a fact. i played scenarios and world games up to r8, then entered the competitive scene, where initially i got destroyed by other players in almost every game. the level of gameplay i encountered in the other games was nothing compared to what i found once i began playing in the competitive scene mainly on europe+. even the weaker regular 3v3 players are superior to the better scenario andwhatnot players out there who dont play competitively.

once i entered this scene myself i began to vastly improve.

Написано joedtaxi, 27.07.2014 at 19:33

Написано Professor Adog, 27.07.2014 at 19:25

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 19:07

Написано Tundy, 27.07.2014 at 18:46

Why we don't have trophies? Because we don't join tournaments.. Most of them get full by the time I am aware of their existence.

Why we are not in the list of top players? because only people that play 3 v 3 voted. A popularity contest won't decide who is the best player in atwar lol

>eu 3 v 3
>superior skill

You are delusional, go play a ww2 and see it by yourself.

ive encountered you on maps outside europe+, youre a solid player, better than the others marcus listed(other than tiktok who ive never seen play). but when it comes to deciding between a good and a great player, its the little things a player does that reveals their true level. i could play you on ww2, it might take me a few tries while i get my bearings on that map but i would beat you, in a reverse role you could challenge me on europe+, i would bet it would take you quite sometime to figure out how to beat me. i know this because ive played you and seen your weaknesses.

but this is just speculative ego nonsense.

there are tourneys on maps outside the europe+ setting, if youd any interest in proving yourself you would try them out.

Ok. Illyria, CW?

cw ?

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 19:07

Написано Tundy, 27.07.2014 at 18:46

Why we don't have trophies? Because we don't join tournaments.. Most of them get full by the time I am aware of their existence.

Why we are not in the list of top players? because only people that play 3 v 3 voted. A popularity contest won't decide who is the best player in atwar lol

>eu 3 v 3
>superior skill

You are delusional, go play a ww2 and see it by yourself.

ive encountered you on maps outside europe+, youre a solid player, better than the others marcus listed(other than tiktok who ive never seen play). but when it comes to deciding between a good and a great player, its the little things a player does that reveals their true level. i could play you on ww2, it might take me a few tries while i get my bearings on that map but i would beat you, in a reverse role you could challenge me on europe+, i would bet it would take you quite sometime to figure out how to beat me. i know this because ive played you and seen your weaknesses.

but this is just speculative ego nonsense.

there are tourneys on maps outside the europe+ setting, if youd any interest in proving yourself you would try them out.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 20:50

insulting me doesnt make your point look any better.

we can all agree that scenarios and 3v3s arent exactly the same, if you think they are you might just need to see a doctor cause you are messed up. yes maybe you do dominate some scenario games, and i can give you many examples at when i walk into a 3v3 and single handily win the game. We arent talking about ever player that plays the maps. many ww2 players are complete noobs and beating them doesnt prove you are better, it only proves you cant recognize a weaker opponent and want to brag you beat a scenario player. if you are claiming that its so easy to compare scenarios and 3v3s and its easy to cross over why would you state that when you first started playing you got raped? i cant control if someone plays shitty maps and scenarios but that doesnt mean it takes any less skill. 3v3 is all about memorizing expansion and rushing players to gain the advantage.

we dont have trophies cause we dont have tournies (adog hosted one and it was so bad it was taken down ). I play in tourneys and i dont win but that doesnt anything.

saying that a group of players is better than another group of players in different fields of play is still not a logical argument.

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 22:26

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 20:50

insulting me doesnt make your point look any better.

we can all agree that scenarios and 3v3s arent exactly the same, if you think they are you might just need to see a doctor cause you are messed up. yes maybe you do dominate some scenario games, and i can give you many examples at when i walk into a 3v3 and single handily win the game. We arent talking about ever player that plays the maps. many ww2 players are complete noobs and beating them doesnt prove you are better, it only proves you cant recognize a weaker opponent and want to brag you beat a scenario player. if you are claiming that its so easy to compare scenarios and 3v3s and its easy to cross over why would you state that when you first started playing you got raped? i cant control if someone plays shitty maps and scenarios but that doesnt mean it takes any less skill. 3v3 is all about memorizing expansion and rushing players to gain the advantage.

we dont have trophies cause we dont have tournies (adog hosted one and it was so bad it was taken down ). I play in tourneys and i dont win but that doesnt anything.

saying that a group of players is better than another group of players in different fields of play is still not a logical argument.

cut the crap marcus, i never insulted you, youre not fooling anyone by hopping on a moral high horse. i however have been labelled ignorant and delusional which is laughable all things considered.

youve told me nothing here that i dont already know about 3v3s and scenarios. you speak of all this yet in a previous post you basically told me to pick an weak country and try to win vs a significantly advantaged one in order to prove myself in scenarios, which again is laughable.

i provided a logical argument, desu provided a logical argument(whose post you completely ignored btw), if neither were good enough for you you either misunderstood or just arent very logical.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 15:40

im sorry but this is just complete bullshit, i love 3v3 but saying you learn skill in 3v3 only is bullshit, 3v3 is balanced, talk to me when you win an unbalanced map, like winning ww2 asia as siam against india and china with japan's lands.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 20:50

we can all agree that scenarios and 3v3s arent exactly the same, if you think they are you might just need to see a doctor cause you are messed up. yes maybe you do dominate some scenario games, and i can give you many examples at when i walk into a 3v3 and single handily win the game. We arent talking about ever player that plays the maps. many ww2 players are complete noobs and beating them doesnt prove you are better, it only proves you cant recognize a weaker opponent and want to brag you beat a scenario player. if you are claiming that its so easy to compare scenarios and 3v3s and its easy to cross over why would you state that when you first started playing you got raped? i cant control if someone plays shitty maps and scenarios but that doesnt mean it takes any less skill. 3v3 is all about memorizing expansion and rushing players to gain the advantage.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 22:44

3v3 players are the best
3v3 players are better at 3v3 in EU+
3v3 players are better at scenarios if they wanted to be
3v3 players are more involved
Scenario players just want SP
Scenario players are not as good in everything

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 20:50

3v3 is all about memorizing expansion and rushing players to gain the advantage.

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 20:50

Написано Permamuted, 27.07.2014 at 18:13

Написано Quantum027, 27.07.2014 at 17:35

ignorance is saying that those types of players are just flat out better than scenario players. you cant claim better and not say at what.

-I am better than you.
-At what?
-idk i just said it there must be something

This is the logic you are applying. I am not saying scenario players are more skilled im saying its a different style of gameplay. In scenarios like ww2, you dont expand into lands (most scenarios run this way) and in FFA scenarios you must use impearistic tactics while assuming a level of diplomacy. CWs on 3v3 or 1v1 dont teach these as well as scenarios do. you also cant us RP as a sum-up of scenarios/custom maps as there are very few of them and are viewed just as bad in the eyes of us as they are to 3v3 players.

EDIT: my posts arent ignorant as i dont say either side is better because you cant compare different styles of players, also apples and pears are both fruits, they have similarities but are not the exact same, such as the style of gameplay needed to master scenarios/custom maps and 3v3

i shouldnt have to provide proof, it should be obvious but apparently i do.

its not a different style of gameplay, put diplomacy aside, its not a relevant skill in aw gameplay. lets discuss everything else.

you mention skill involved in ww2, ww2 like in all teamgames including europe+ has sides/country(ies). each side has a specific role, ie it must kill this side, or hold off this other side until turn X, or hold a specific area etc etc.

its not different from any teamgame on aw, you would understand this if you yourself were a better 3v3 player. and once you understand the role of the side youre playing, then your skill and efficiency as a player come into play.

and to further backup my point, that greatest aw players thread lists mainly compeitive 3v3 players as the greatest, i see few known scenario players in that list

furthermore all tourney games on aw are won once again by these same players, i see no tourney trophies on tiktoks critical tunder or even your own wall since you specifically listed these players.

they ARE better, this is a fact. i played scenarios and world games up to r8, then entered the competitive scene, where initially i got destroyed by other players in almost every game. the level of gameplay i encountered in the other games was nothing compared to what i found once i began playing in the competitive scene mainly on europe+. even the weaker regular 3v3 players are superior to the better scenario andwhatnot players out there who dont play competitively.

once i entered this scene myself i began to vastly improve.

insulting me doesnt make your point look any better.

we can all agree that scenarios and 3v3s arent exactly the same, if you think they are you might just need to see a doctor cause you are messed up. yes maybe you do dominate some scenario games, and i can give you many examples at when i walk into a 3v3 and single handily win the game. We arent talking about ever player that plays the maps. many ww2 players are complete noobs and beating them doesnt prove you are better, it only proves you cant recognize a weaker opponent and want to brag you beat a scenario player. if you are claiming that its so easy to compare scenarios and 3v3s and its easy to cross over why would you state that when you first started playing you got raped? i cant control if someone plays shitty maps and scenarios but that doesnt mean it takes any less skill. 3v3 is all about memorizing expansion and rushing players to gain the advantage.

we dont have trophies cause we dont have tournies (adog hosted one and it was so bad it was taken down ). I play in tourneys and i dont win but that doesnt anything.

saying that a group of players is better than another group of players in different fields of play is still not a logical argument.

Написано clovis1122, 27.07.2014 at 23:46

Dear MapMarkers, Dear 3vs3 players, please stop this annonying fight.

Laochra you are wrong and you know it. 3vs3 is not balanced ( we already discussed yet.) And 80% of the players ~Desu describe as " proper 3vs3" are much probably rank 10+ who played lot of Whole World games and have years in this game.

WHAT YOU ARE LIKERY TO LEARN ONLY PURE 3VS3 10k Eu+

► How to make an effective use of your money.
► PD fagging.
► How to rush.
► To away have a team.
► Late-game strategys and their importance on short-scale games.
► If you have excess of money then send them to your allies.
► How to adapt to ANY kind of late-game with the diversity of openings/gameplay.
► PDis love. PD is life. PDis OP everywhere.
► Rewall and other cheap tricks.
► Team work skills. Better cooperation between allies.
► The huge importance of a turn, a wall, a unit, a reinformed in coastal city.
► Certain suff from World map & scenarios, but on a cleary low degree.
► Every strat is playlable under certain circumstances, but your team will probably ask you for PD fag everywhere.
► How to be un-nice.

WHAT YOU ARE LIKERY TO LEARN IN World Map & Scenarios:

► How to make a effective use of your reinformeds.
► How to make a effective use of all units, incluides the Sentry Plane, without care about strategy or no.
► The art of Concurrent attacks and their high efectiveness against certain targets.
► Micromanagement.
► How to MoS and GW like a boss: The art of surprice.
► To away make a quick view of the map, and actually localize the best pick according to your strat in the region.
► 50k money IS AWESOMEEEEEEEEEE.
► Learn all PD weakness. Actually, All strat weakness.
► Allyfags are likery to win all the games.
► How to spam tanks.
► How to leave.
► Dat fell when someone troll and leave....
► The importance of Diplomacy: Even hittler and napoleon had allies. You cant expect to join a world and win it alone all the times.
► Basically all you can learn in 3vs3, but in less degree.
► Every strat is playlable ( yes even RA is playlable).
► How to be social.

RolePlay, or better know as Diplomarcy has be used from ancient times and even in Afterwind. Choose your allies sucefull in whole world can guarantee you a victory. There is nothing wrong with it.

Mad because that person prefer to be more sociable and have allies, while you are alone? THEN YOUR FAULT. YOU COULD HAS PERFECTLY ASKED FOR ALLIANCE AND CONTROL YOUR DIPLOMACY. Even call a friend and team up. Diplomacy have a great power, and we can see it in how british empire was the most largest empire of the world in 1921, while the Mongol khanate where 2st. Why? because an excelent diplomacy.


Yeah, I asked you before and will ask you again: Get 3 people rank 9-less that doesnt play scenario & whole world that often. MapMarkers will get their 5 best players in that scenario. And let see who is the best.

Написано Permamuted, 28.07.2014 at 04:17

you exist to contradict me lol, well consider me a walking talking contradiction to your entire post. i became the player i am today mainly through 3v3s and duels. world games are just a largescale version of all that, and yea mos is more useful on them.

Написано clovis1122, 28.07.2014 at 09:09

Написано Permamuted, 28.07.2014 at 04:17

you exist to contradict me lol, well consider me a walking talking contradiction to your entire post. i became the player i am today mainly through 3v3s and duels. world games are just a largescale version of all that, and yea mos is more useful on them.

woah, first you defend saydining " I play all maps, even RP" and now you say you are purely 3vs3. You just contradict youself and I believe you had played more all other map that 3vs3 or duel.

3vs3 is no an extenction of world map. PD is neaby unbeatable and playlable on all countrys. There is no country which you cant play a decent game as PD ( poland/sweden/rnw doesnt count, although PD is perfectly playlable on thoses).

More that 75% of the game is won by the team who have higher ranks / uk in their team / rush turn 3.

However, in scenario/whole world is different. because..... ( already explained).

Написано clovis1122, 28.07.2014 at 09:09

More that 75% of the game is won by the team who have higher ranks / uk in their team / rush turn 3.