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Написано Wheelo, 31.05.2017 at 12:12

Correction: in the name of Islam. Again you are softening it by saying religion every time, refusing to realize they are being done in the name of Islam. It's pretty clear I am talking about the rise in islamic terrorist attacks in recent years. In regards to the western funding of ISIS, yes ,I realize the US had a part to play initially in the rise of ISIS financially, but for someone to say the US or any other western country is funding ISIS to this day is a ridiculous conspiracy theory.

I was talking about the inquisition there so it would be in the name of the bible and christianity.

It is no conspiracy theory since it has been confirmed by usa themselves. It's also a fact that our weapons arrive to them. Anyway, idk what do you expect from me to answer your comment exactly. I can't deny that islamic terrorism is worrisome, if that's what you're expecting.

Написано Zephyrusu, 31.05.2017 at 12:04

Christianity and the Bible are actually against violence overall and while there are some violent parts they are just contradictory because the Bible is made up of many different sources and writers piled together. By contrast, the Quran was written by Mohammad, all of it, and rather than implications and bits here and there it is the book's main point when it comes to how to treat infidels. Also, there are plenty of Christians in the Middle East too and infact they make up around 10% of Syria and about half of Lebanon. Yet I see no Christian terrorists and extremists in the region, and no Druze, Yazidi and whatever other terrorists either. So no, it's not just that the Middle East overall is not as advanced, it is Islam itself that breeds this behaviour. Are you seriously trying to say that a religion that wants you to forcefully convert people of other religions is innocent and not to blame for any of its' followers extreme actions?

Replying to your edits, no, Muslim extremists are funded by far by Saudi Arabia, the gulf states, Iran and to a MUCH lesser degree the US, and that only indirectly because they didn't know who they were funding.

There's violence in the bible as well, the source doesn't really matter to me that much. And even if there are, we've evolved to overcome that, right? So can muslims, hence why not the entirety of muslims is invading us.

Christians are not the ones being funded and armed XD anyway, they don't a reason to become terrorists either, just as the majority of muslims who do not practice violence. Also, those same christians were living totally fine until terrorist groups arrived to Syria. You should not insinuate in any way that all muslims are the same.

If it forcefuly wanted Europe to convert, wouldn't we all be in an eternal war against them? Why aren't we? Why aren't they invading us? Again, muslims do not need to do that and are not in favour of doing so...

Написано RaulPB, 31.05.2017 at 12:26

There's violence in the bible as well, the source doesn't really matter to me that much. And even if there are, we've evolved to overcome that, right? So can muslims, hence why not the entirety of muslims is invading us.

Christians are not the ones being funded and armed XD anyway, they don't a reason to become terrorists either, just as the majority of muslims who do not practice violence. Also, those same christians were living totally fine until terrorist groups arrived to Syria. You should not insinuate in any way that all muslims are the same.

If it forcefuly wanted Europe to convert, wouldn't we all be in an eternal war against them? Why aren't we? Why aren't they invading us? Again, muslims do not need to do that and are not in favour of doing so...

I never said that all Muslims are evil conquerors because secularism is a thing, however it is true that Islam's savage ideology is much more likely to breed terrorists than Hinduism or whatever.

Написано Zephyrusu, 31.05.2017 at 13:21

I never said that all Muslims are evil conquerors because secularism is a thing, however it is true that Islam's savage ideology is much more likely to breed terrorists than Hinduism or whatever.

If they are muslim, they are not secular though. And I wouldn't call it savage either, it's all about perspectives. They just need to adapt and renew their religion to newer times.

Well, I think I agree with that. Considering Hinduism or Budism particularly, the level of extremism would need to be completely exagerated in order to push them to consider violence as their last resort. Sadly, it's not the same for every other religion.

Написано RaulPB, 31.05.2017 at 14:41

If they are muslim, they are not secular though. And I wouldn't call it savage either, it's all about perspectives. They just need to adapt and renew their religion to newer times.

Well, I think I agree with that. Considering Hinduism or Budism particularly, the level of extremism would need to be completely exagerated in order to push them to consider violence as their last resort. Sadly, it's not the same for every other religion.

Secular doesn't mean atheist, secular means not taking your religion that seriously and not bringing it into politics. So you can be both secular and Muslim.

Написано Zephyrusu, 31.05.2017 at 14:53

Secular doesn't mean atheist, secular means not taking your religion that seriously and not bringing it into politics. So you can be both secular and Muslim.

Oh, ok, I see! Didn't know that meaning, sorry about that!

Religion of Peace™ strikes again!

Where did my thread go? Why it got deleted???

Написано Khal.eesi, 04.06.2017 at 06:10

Where did my thread go? Why it got deleted???

You have no freedom xD

Написано RaulPB, 31.05.2017 at 14:41

Написано Zephyrusu, 31.05.2017 at 13:21

I never said that all Muslims are evil conquerors because secularism is a thing, however it is true that Islam's savage ideology is much more likely to breed terrorists than Hinduism or whatever.

If they are muslim, they are not secular though. And I wouldn't call it savage either, it's all about perspectives. They just need to adapt and renew their religion to newer times.

Well, I think I agree with that. Considering Hinduism or Budism particularly, the level of extremism would need to be completely exagerated in order to push them to consider violence as their last resort. Sadly, it's not the same for every other religion.

research about buddism violence. as far as i know (but i dont really care) buddism doesnt promote violence but peace just like any other religion. so before idiots quote me, im not bashing buddism but some buddist monk terrorists who are killing innocents. There you are if you think buddists are the most peaceful people on earth

Good thing there was no facebook and internet back then, otherwise buddists would have been considered terroritst



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence



Some of the radical buddhism terrorist extremist attacks






If you want more, go ahead and google

Написано Khal.eesi, 04.06.2017 at 06:10

Where did my thread go? Why it got deleted???

maybe because youre a hypocrite piece of shit who plays the victim role and on the same time make bigotry threads

Написано Rivaldo, 04.06.2017 at 13:17

Написано Khal.eesi, 04.06.2017 at 06:10

Where did my thread go? Why it got deleted???

maybe because youre a hypocrite piece of shit who plays the victim role and on the same time make bigotry threads

I just reported the facts and gave the link to the article, i did not offer my opinion and neither did i trashtalked like you just did. Unfortunately we have to endure uncivilised individuals like you immigrating to our countries and the slightest reference to terrorist attacks by islamic terrorists gets censored. Now thats bad modding.

Написано Rivaldo, 04.06.2017 at 13:15

research about buddism violence. as far as i know (but i dont really care) buddism doesnt promote violence but peace just like any other religion. so before idiots quote me, im not bashing buddism but some buddist monk terrorists who are killing innocents. There you are if you think buddists are the most peaceful people on earth

Good thing there was no facebook and internet back then, otherwise buddists would have been considered terroritst



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

You are the single most ignorant, uneducated, illiterate, stupid person on atwar. The photo you just posted is from Buddhist monks helping earthquake victims. The " budhists killed muh muslems" has been debunked for quite some time and it was proven to be a silly propaganda ny the muslim community.

Just how fucking stupid you are posting fake facebook memes as truth without first checking them yourself. You are the epitome of retardation.

http://www.skeptical-science.com/religion/massacre-muslims-burma-debunked/
http://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/fake-photos-trolling-1320613
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12867/social-media-is-lying-to-you-about-burmas-muslim-cleansing/

Написано Khal.eesi, 04.06.2017 at 13:41

You are the single most ignorant, uneducated, illiterate, stupid person on atwar. The photo you just posted is from Buddhist monks helping earthquake victims. The " budhists killed muh muslems" has been debunked for quite some time and it was proven to be a silly propaganda ny the muslim community.

Just how fucking stupid you are posting fake facebook memes as truth without first checking them yourself. You are the epitome of retardation.

http://www.skeptical-science.com/religion/massacre-muslims-burma-debunked/
http://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/fake-photos-trolling-1320613
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12867/social-media-is-lying-to-you-about-burmas-muslim-cleansing/

But.... look at this:



Idk what exactly, but there's something going on there I had never heard about.... There obviously is some sort of violence, not exactly sure if it is targeted excusively against muslims or who, but their sutiation just doesn't sound great

What shocked me the most is that their army is completely independant from the government... That could surely bring so many problems

PS:
(before she was president)




http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/burma-rohingya-muslims-crackdown-government-crackdown-campaign-reuters-un-report-a7570116.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18395788

Написано RaulPB, 04.06.2017 at 15:29

Написано Khal.eesi, 04.06.2017 at 13:41

You are the single most ignorant, uneducated, illiterate, stupid person on atwar. The photo you just posted is from Buddhist monks helping earthquake victims. The " budhists killed muh muslems" has been debunked for quite some time and it was proven to be a silly propaganda ny the muslim community.

Just how fucking stupid you are posting fake facebook memes as truth without first checking them yourself. You are the epitome of retardation.

http://www.skeptical-science.com/religion/massacre-muslims-burma-debunked/
http://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/fake-photos-trolling-1320613
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/12867/social-media-is-lying-to-you-about-burmas-muslim-cleansing/

But.... look at this:



Idk what exactly, but there's something going on there I had never heard about.... There obviously is some sort of violence, not exactly sure if it is targeted excusively against muslims or who, but their sutiation just doesn't sounds great

What shocked me the most is that their army is completely independant from the government... That could surely bring so many problems

Not only that each general is autonomous from the others, there army is like that of ancient rome.

Написано Helly, 04.06.2017 at 15:34

Not only that each general is autonomous from the others, there army is like that of ancient rome.

Just a personal curious question.... how would you feel if usa's military worked like that? I'd feel scared, like if the second civil spanish war were a real threat

Написано RaulPB, 04.06.2017 at 15:37

Написано Helly, 04.06.2017 at 15:34

Not only that each general is autonomous from the others, there army is like that of ancient rome.

Just a personal curious question.... how would you feel if usa's military worked like that? I'd feel scared, like if the second civil spanish war were a real threat

I'd like it that way, due to the fact each general would have personal motives rather then working for a single corrupt government. But I could see there being issues with funding and corruption on a military level aswell. Maybe instead each state should host it's own armed forces. Rather then individual generals.

Написано Helly, 04.06.2017 at 15:43

I'd like it that way, due to the fact each general would have personal motives rather then working for a single corrupt government. But I could see there being issues with funding and corruption on a military level aswell. Maybe instead each state should host it's own armed forces. Rather then individual generals.

But, as you just said, wouldn't that simply increase the possibilities of corruption or even of there being an internal conflict?? Each general could have conflicting interests with each other... that would entail such huge tensions in an enormous country like usa that idk how would you live with it. A corrupt general could also lead to catastrophic outcomes

Написано RaulPB, 04.06.2017 at 15:48

Написано Helly, 04.06.2017 at 15:43

I'd like it that way, due to the fact each general would have personal motives rather then working for a single corrupt government. But I could see there being issues with funding and corruption on a military level aswell. Maybe instead each state should host it's own armed forces. Rather then individual generals.

But, as you just said, wouldn't that simply increase the possibilities of corruption or even of there being an internal conflict?? Each general could have conflicting interests with each other... that would entail such huge tensions in an enormous country like usa that idk how would you live with it. A corrupt general could also lead to catastrophic outcomes

thats why instead i suggested state funded militaries.

Написано Helly, 04.06.2017 at 16:41

thats why instead i suggested state funded militaries.

Hm, that could probably solve some of the corrution problems, in theory (we all know corruption is basically unavoidable nowadays). But it could still raise certain tensions between different states maybe?

Написано Khal.eesi, 04.06.2017 at 06:10

Bad news guys, it's already started; France is under muslim influence and french population has surrendered to their suicidal instincts. Humanity has been lost, pray to God!!!!!



Who's gonna be the hero we need? Zone, come to our aid, save europe from its tragic end!

Between demographic pressure and cultural pressure, I think Islam probably will become the most influential organised religion on the European Continent sometime this century. Unlike many posters here I don't see that as a necessarily bad thing. It could be a disaster, but it doesn't necessarily have to be.

Admittedly I am not well informed in this issue and my opinion is more instinctive than well-considered. But it's what I'm inclined to think.

Написано International, 09.06.2017 at 12:18

Between demographic pressure and cultural pressure, I think Islam probably will become the most influential organised religion on the European Continent sometime this century. Unlike many posters here I don't see that as a necessarily bad thing. It could be a disaster, but it doesn't necessarily have to be.

Admittedly I am not well informed in this issue and my opinion is more instinctive than well-considered. But it's what I'm inclined to think.

That is acctuly sad :/

Написано RaulPB, 09.06.2017 at 12:02

Bad news guys, it's already started; France is under muslim influence and french population has surrendered to their suicidal instincts. Humanity has been lost, pray to God!!!!!



Who's gonna be the hero we need? Zone, come to our aid, save europe from its tragic end!

BREAKING NEWS: we're being informed that Zone appeared in the middle of the terrorist headquarter and baguetted them to death!! I have personally risked my moral integrity and approached our terrorist suspect at jail. My interaction with him was quite reduced since he still seemed to be a bit confused after the multiple contusions caused by the baguette. This was his main statement:



Zone has been awarded the city's golden baguette by the newly elected French president. VIVA ZONE!

Написано RaulPB, 09.06.2017 at 17:29

Написано RaulPB, 09.06.2017 at 12:02

Bad news guys, it's already started; France is under muslim influence and french population has surrendered to their suicidal instincts. Humanity has been lost, pray to God!!!!!



Who's gonna be the hero we need? Zone, come to our aid, save europe from its tragic end!

BREAKING NEWS: we're being informed that Zone appeared in the middle of the terrorist headquarter and baguetted them to death!! I have personally risked my moral integrity and approached our terrorist suspect at jail. My interaction with him was quite reduced since he still seemed to be a bit confused after the multiple contusions caused by the baguette. This was his main statement:



Zone has been awarded the city's golden baguette by the newly elected French president. VIVA ZONE!

Dang, I don't remember say that ha

Написано Leo, 09.06.2017 at 18:28

Dang, I don't remember say that ha

Ofc you don't, that baguette might have caused you a serious concussion, we all know how strong Zone is! Luckily, you're back with full health and police can keep on interrogating you

Написано RaulPB, 09.06.2017 at 17:29

Написано RaulPB, 09.06.2017 at 12:02

Bad news guys, it's already started; France is under muslim influence and french population has surrendered to their suicidal instincts. Humanity has been lost, pray to God!!!!!



Who's gonna be the hero we need? Zone, come to our aid, save europe from its tragic end!

BREAKING NEWS: we're being informed that Zone appeared in the middle of the terrorist headquarter and baguetted them to death!! I have personally risked my moral integrity and approached our terrorist suspect at jail. My interaction with him was quite reduced since he still seemed to be a bit confused after the multiple contusions caused by the baguette. This was his main statement:



Zone has been awarded the city's golden baguette by the newly elected French president. VIVA ZONE!

OMFG!! More News! Jail cameras have caught the policeman dictator, Heatler, flirting in private with our terrorist suspect. Exclusive grants have been given to this newpaper with part of the transcript of their conversation. This is what their actual conversation:



It seems like there's a certain relationship going on between a terrorist and the policeman dictator. Internet browser policeman, GC, is already on the case, searching for any possible post in Facebook that could help them in the investigation!