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Сообщение от Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

06.10.2016 - 00:48
Fair play tunder, you might actually win
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06.10.2016 - 00:50


With the generous donation of Titus Labienus (34 talents) and Gaius Marius Maximus (Pyrrhus ) the Populares host a month long Labienii Gladiatoral Extravaganza to distract the increasingly degenerate and violent romans from the chaos and destruction of the republic.

For this enormous spending, a great champion from Capua is brought forth to do battle. The roar of the crowds is deafening. The announcer speaks

"Behold, the undefeated thracian, the bringer of rain, the legend himself....SPARTACUS!"



tl;dr
-36 talents from bank, host 2 Gladiatorial spectacles
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06.10.2016 - 00:52
Написано Phoenix, 06.10.2016 at 00:48

Fair play tunder, you might actually win


Watch how the thieves at rome start butchering each other after they execute Safari,Meester and Resting Lime.
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06.10.2016 - 06:08
Написано Tundy, 05.10.2016 at 21:23



The 3 headed monster is partitioning the republic among dogs and vultures, they all want to eat the soul of the republic to the bone.

Lol who made Aetius the King? I veto any proposal to such an effect if it comes to vote between Triumvirs. We started out equal, and we should end this equally.
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06.10.2016 - 06:57
Написано Tundy, 05.10.2016 at 22:17

I am making the "Antonian Faction"

Metellus Cornelius Scipio (Zephyrusu)
Achaius Pontidius(mr tyler)
Lars Pedius (Zenith)

are invited.

I accept.
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06.10.2016 - 10:21
Написано Darth., 06.10.2016 at 06:08

Написано Tundy, 05.10.2016 at 21:23



The 3 headed monster is partitioning the republic among dogs and vultures, they all want to eat the soul of the republic to the bone.

Lol who made Aetius the King? I veto any proposal to such an effect if it comes to vote between Triumvirs. We started out equal, and we should end this equally.


Too bad things dont work the way you think, you wanted these men executed on sight and alas; aetius put them on trial instead.
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06.10.2016 - 10:27
==Turn 24: Phase 2 has begun==
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06.10.2016 - 10:50
Death to all trials.
1) to all proposals
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06.10.2016 - 10:55
I also propose Tradition Erodes Law
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06.10.2016 - 11:03
1 to all proposals

Trial of Drusus Caelius
2) Exile, after paying 10 talents to treasury and giving the Servillian Law


Trial of Junius Damasippus
3) Death

This man brought the god's wrath upon Rome and should die.

Trial of Sextus Varius
2) Exile

Sextus surrendered to us in good faith.
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06.10.2016 - 11:10
aetius is forgiving unlike darth. This is such a death blow to darth's proposal to execute all republicans
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06.10.2016 - 11:27
Написано Darth., 06.10.2016 at 10:50

Death to all trials.
1) to all proposals


Sertorius disagrees, lets see who's will prevails.
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06.10.2016 - 11:35
Consul: 2

1 to all proposals

Trials:

Death to Junius, exile for other two.
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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06.10.2016 - 11:50
I am going to teach Aetius' dog a good lesson at spain.

have Tyrranus Rex charge at my forces like the foolish weak push over that he is.
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06.10.2016 - 12:10
Написано Tundy, 06.10.2016 at 11:50

I am going to teach Aetius' dog a good lesson at spain.

have Tyrranus Rex charge at my forces like the foolish weak push over that he is.

Lol wut

My forces: 2 Evocati, 3 veterans, 1 legion

Your forces: a bunch of dumb auxiliaries that can't fucking move and is not an army, but a militia
Do you even know wtf you're talking about?
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06.10.2016 - 12:12
Написано Darth., 06.10.2016 at 12:10

Написано Tundy, 06.10.2016 at 11:50

I am going to teach Aetius' dog a good lesson at spain.

have Tyrranus Rex charge at my forces like the foolish weak push over that he is.

Lol wut

My forces: 2 Evocati, 3 veterans, 1 legion

Your forces: a bunch of dumb auxiliaries that can't fucking move and is not an army, but a militia
Do you even know wtf you're talking about?



You are Aetius' fuckboy, I challenge you to win the civil war at spain without any reinforcements
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06.10.2016 - 12:13
Написано Tundy, 06.10.2016 at 11:10

aetius is forgiving unlike darth. This is such a death blow to darth's proposal to execute all republicans

Question 1: wtf are you smoking?

Question 2: do you even realize that you have no real power? You can hole up in Spain, but eventually you will fall and this rebellion of yours against the rightful leaders of Rome will be completely and utterly crushed once and for all
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06.10.2016 - 12:15
Написано Tundy, 06.10.2016 at 12:12

Написано Darth., 06.10.2016 at 12:10

Написано Tundy, 06.10.2016 at 11:50

I am going to teach Aetius' dog a good lesson at spain.

have Tyrranus Rex charge at my forces like the foolish weak push over that he is.

Lol wut

My forces: 2 Evocati, 3 veterans, 1 legion

Your forces: a bunch of dumb auxiliaries that can't fucking move and is not an army, but a militia
Do you even know wtf you're talking about?



You are Aetius' fuckboy, I challenge you to win the civil war at spain without any reinforcements


I'm ignoring the first part of your sentence. I don't really care what rebel scum thinks of me.
As for the second...who said I'm going to Spain lol. Your attempt to goad me has failed.
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06.10.2016 - 12:23
Coward
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06.10.2016 - 12:27
So I can live on as my eldest son?
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06.10.2016 - 13:57
1 to all proposals

Trial of Drusus Caelius
2) Exile, after paying 10 talents to treasury and giving the Servillian Law


Trial of Junius Damasippus
3) Death


Trial of Sextus Varius
3) Death
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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06.10.2016 - 14:08
Написано Tundy, 06.10.2016 at 12:23

Coward

Only a fool goes charging off to war without preparation...like you did with your ridiculous 'revolt'
It was pathetic enough to be classified a skirmish, forget about a revolt or some great battle.
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06.10.2016 - 14:46
Написано Darth., 06.10.2016 at 14:08

Написано Tundy, 06.10.2016 at 12:23

Coward

Only a fool goes charging off to war without preparation...like you did with your ridiculous 'revolt'
It was pathetic enough to be classified a skirmish, forget about a revolt or some great battle.


You must be angry that -while pyrrhus has military glory and aetius political hegemoney- you have to go through shit and mud to even get a chance to engage me and the republican forces in battle. Your share of rome will be a desolated, war striken farmland in the middle of nowhere.

Or do you really think thay pyrrhus will allow you to take away princes from his military command in the east? There is no glory or triumphs for you. You may not even go back to rome alive.
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06.10.2016 - 16:05
Putting "nay" " I am a traitor" is bias. Mixing host duties with your characters interests again
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06.10.2016 - 16:10
Consul Vote (consuls may pick their co-consul)
1) Caspiel Rex Tertius (Darth.) + ?

Censor Vote (optional due to low population)
1)Flavius Sertorius (Aetius)

Praetor Vote
1)Andertius Paullus (Pavle )

Andertius Paullus (Pavle ) will be replaced as Governor of Asia by Flavius Marcus (Pheonixking929 ) after his war against Pontus is over
1)Aye

Force Deployments
1)
Egypt: 8 Fleets, Legio IV Gallica and 3 legions
Pontus: 4 Fleets, 10 legions, Legio EvocatiI X Fortuna , Legio Evocati VIII Herculiani, Legio VI Rapax
Narbonese Gaul: 1 legion, Legio Evocati VII Aquila, Legio Evocati XV Lupus, Legio XXI Obeliscus, Legio V Macedonica, Legio I Italia
Asia: 1 Legion to garrison Asia

Repealment of the Scipione Land bill (Tier III)
1) Aye

Trial of Drusus Caelius
3) Death

Trial of Junius Damasippus
3) Death


Trial of Sextus Varius
3) Death

Consular Edict of Sertorius
1)Aye
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06.10.2016 - 16:17
Написано Phoenix, 06.10.2016 at 16:05

Putting "nay" " I am a traitor" is bias. Mixing host duties with your characters interests again

no fun allowed

Its a one party state the voting is just symbolic and everyone knows it. (but you)
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06.10.2016 - 20:07
Murderous Marius is a bloody butcherer. Waister of Rome, looter and thief south of the rubicon. Shamed be his name, for many good romans will perish for this monsters murderous orgy.
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07.10.2016 - 00:40
Написано Aetius, 06.10.2016 at 16:17

Написано Phoenix, 06.10.2016 at 16:05

Putting "nay" " I am a traitor" is bias. Mixing host duties with your characters interests again

no fun allowed

Its a one party state the voting is just symbolic and everyone knows it. (but you)


Omg you really don't understand the meaning of bias
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07.10.2016 - 01:22
==Turn 24: Phase 3 has begun==
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07.10.2016 - 02:01
With the flight of the Rebel Lars Pedius from Narbonese Gaul, I redeploy my legions to defend Rome and it's people.
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