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Сообщение от Waffel, 30.04.2014 - 15:30
I had a convo with tophats, I screened everything no fakies.

Little summary:
Tophats told me I wasn't the one starting sharing syrians pic. But yet I was the one with the highest ban/mute of all the people. I asked why and he told me because of me ''larger history'' I told him that it doesnt stands in the rule to extra mute/ban some1 because he has an larger history than the rest. Ofc I have a larger history i play longer than most of these people do. He also couldn't give me proof of his way of extra muting/banning me because it doesnt stands in the rule. I marked some things in our convo, but dont forget to read everything

Ofc there will be some guys calling me retard and noob and disagreee with me because they dont want to be one of those guys we have negative critics/comments about the moderators, and that kinda bugs me out.



03.05.2014 - 18:46
Написано Tirpitz406, 03.05.2014 at 15:46

Well...i think yes, people should be treated the same way no matter what they are doing, i mean, can you blame someone for doing something like a year ago?

Exactly this.

You guys keep on punishing people who aint buttlicking you guys. But if a person who keeps buttlicking you guys has a history and does something wrong he doesnt get extra muted or banned or whatever. You guys make it a bigdeal of saying hi or bye or idgaf about whatever i say in global. When there is some1 else spamming the fck out in global and stuff and you guys just ignore it. But only look at the person who has a ''larger history''
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03.05.2014 - 18:50
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:46

Написано Tirpitz406, 03.05.2014 at 15:46

Well...i think yes, people should be treated the same way no matter what they are doing, i mean, can you blame someone for doing something like a year ago?

Exactly this.

You guys keep on punishing people who aint buttlicking you guys. But if a person who keeps buttlicking you guys has a history and does something wrong he doesnt get extra muted or banned or whatever. You guys make it a bigdeal of saying hi or bye or idgaf about whatever i say in global. When there is some1 else spamming the fck out in global and stuff and you guys just ignore it. But only look at the person who has a ''larger history''

well...either everyone or noone...but having a nearly naked female as quote really was ridicules xD
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03.05.2014 - 18:56
The thing is. you guys dont know how to punish people anymore so just ban or mute without even having a RULE of that written. Ofc you will make a new rule about this now and use it against me, thats how you guys work. But actually thinking that you have more rights then another person in this game because you got an ''~'' Emblem infront of your name is just wrong.. Also saying that this is how the world works. How about prison? They give those people a second chance. But forreal a retarded person called death1812 is sending pics of him jerking off on photos, there is a clan filled with pedo's, tik-tok talking about ''niggers'' that they should die and they are nothing worth. ALL OF THIS WAS IN THE PUBLIC ROOM? but a guy called waffel globaling something which isnt an advertise -> Mute/ban. Srsly and you guys tell me about the ''large history'' Obviously people who dont have an ''large history'' may say the same thing as a person that has a ''large history'' but wont get punished exactly the same way? -.-
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03.05.2014 - 19:03
Also, if i said this i would get a warning/mute/ban.. whatever you guys feel like giving me.
But a mod can do this! because he has no large history! Right? -.-

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03.05.2014 - 19:19
Waffel you can cry and we will support you no matter what ok, but stop fucking snitching on others to prove your point.
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03.05.2014 - 19:24
Snitching LOL? fck off
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03.05.2014 - 19:46
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I will do what the title says.
From what I know, mods take the decision according to what they think is right, and sometimes as a group. So yeah, it's pointless to argue on how bad the mods are.
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04.05.2014 - 17:55
Написано Guest, 03.05.2014 at 19:46

I will do what the title says.
From what I know, mods take the decision according to what they think is right, and sometimes as a group. So yeah, it's pointless to argue on how bad the mods are.

It's not.
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04.05.2014 - 18:14
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Написано Waffel, 04.05.2014 at 17:55

Написано Guest, 03.05.2014 at 19:46

I will do what the title says.
From what I know, mods take the decision according to what they think is right, and sometimes as a group. So yeah, it's pointless to argue on how bad the mods are.

It's not.


It really is. It doesn't matter if you are right or not. Thing is, they won't accept it.
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04.05.2014 - 18:29
Thats what so faggy about it.
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04.05.2014 - 18:57
That's not true. Good arguments supported with facts are taken into account.
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04.05.2014 - 19:53
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Написано Pinheiro, 04.05.2014 at 18:57

That's not true. Good arguments supported with facts are taken into account.


They are really being biased, specially towards their clan.
Anyway that's all I am going to say, I don't wanna make a big post because there is nothing going to happen.
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Написано Tirpitz406, 03.05.2014 at 15:46

Well...i think yes, people should be treated the same way no matter what they are doing, i mean, can you blame someone for doing something like a year ago?
Yes, yes you can. It's like a person who beat someone up a year ago. If the police finally catch him, he still gets punished. Your logic is shit.
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05.05.2014 - 00:20
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IMO the mods are doing okay. VRIL is too harsh sometimes but the rest are cool.
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05.05.2014 - 04:03
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Написано Tirpitz406, 03.05.2014 at 15:46

Well...i think yes, people should be treated the same way no matter what they are doing, i mean, can you blame someone for doing something like a year ago?
Yes, yes you can. It's like a person who beat someone up a year ago. If the police finally catch him, he still gets punished. Your logic is shit.

but waffel already got muted for what he did a year ago...got it?
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Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 04:03

Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 00:18

Написано Tirpitz406, 03.05.2014 at 15:46

Well...i think yes, people should be treated the same way no matter what they are doing, i mean, can you blame someone for doing something like a year ago?
Yes, yes you can. It's like a person who beat someone up a year ago. If the police finally catch him, he still gets punished. Your logic is shit.

but waffel already got muted for what he did a year ago...got it?
So what? It means he has not learned his lesson if he keeps up this shit.
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05.05.2014 - 05:36
Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 04:16

So what? It means he has not learned his lesson if he keeps up this shit.

this reminds me of something...

if 1 jew killed 1 christian, thats not a reason to kill 4 million jews...
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05.05.2014 - 05:56
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Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 05:36

Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 04:16

So what? It means he has not learned his lesson if he keeps up this shit.

this reminds me of something...

if 1 jew killed 1 christian, thats not a reason to kill 4 million jews...
Well, duh.
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05.05.2014 - 06:07
Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 05:56

Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 05:36

Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 04:16

So what? It means he has not learned his lesson if he keeps up this shit.

this reminds me of something...

if 1 jew killed 1 christian, thats not a reason to kill 4 million jews...

Well, duh.

i mean, what waffle does now, really aint worse than what i do sometimes....
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05.05.2014 - 06:28
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Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 06:07

Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 05:56

Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 05:36

Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 04:16

So what? It means he has not learned his lesson if he keeps up this shit.

this reminds me of something...

if 1 jew killed 1 christian, thats not a reason to kill 4 million jews...

Well, duh.

i mean, what waffle does now, really aint worse than what i do sometimes....
And what do you do?
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05.05.2014 - 06:40
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

The thing is. you guys dont know how to punish people anymore so just ban or mute without even having a RULE of that written.

There are criteria defined in mod forum. Our actions, regarding certain types of offenses have become more systematic; according to the collective mod experience
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

Ofc you will make a new rule about this now and use it against me, thats how you guys work.

So, basically, this whole thread is about you? I thought you said in the begging of this topic that it was more of a general discussion? No, this is not how WE work (whatever WE may mean). Actually, I think that you guys imagine the mod crew as being homogenic and that we discuss every single issue related to the game. There are few discussions, going straight to the "hard" cases and "hard" issues. All of us do this job on voluntary basis, sacrificing game-time (fun-time).
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

But actually thinking that you have more rights then another person in this game because you got an ''~'' Emblem infront of your name is just wrong.. Also saying that this is how the world works.

Actually we do not have "more rights" but more privileges (and, thus, more obligations).
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

How about prison? They give those people a second chance.

Serious? We have been granting second and third chances to many players. Otherwise there is a bunch of 10-20 players that would currently not be around.
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

But forreal a retarded person called death1812 is sending pics of him jerking off on photos, there is a clan filled with pedo's, tik-tok talking about ''niggers'' that they should die and they are nothing worth. ALL OF THIS WAS IN THE PUBLIC ROOM?

They all have been muted, re-muted, banned from forums, re-banned from forums, banned for days, etc.
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

but a guy called waffel globaling something which isnt an advertise -> Mute/ban. Srsly and you guys tell me about the ''large history'' Obviously people who dont have an ''large history'' may say the same thing as a person that has a ''large history'' but wont get punished exactly the same way? -.-

Ok, so this whole topic is about you and not the general discussion you so vehemently announced in the first threads... again, players are dealt with the best way we know. If there is a player that has a history of offenses, trolling, bitching, aggressions, misconducts, etc. then this player wil be dealt with differently than a player that has no record. I guess you don't get this point and you cannot accept that there are limits. If you construct your own "bad-ass" image, you will be dealt as a "bad-ass"... there is no way around. This is exactly the price a player has to pay for receiving a second, third, fourth, etc. chance.
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Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 06:07

i mean, what waffle does now, really aint worse than what i do sometimes....
And what do you do?

writing autisic messages in chats XD
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Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 04:03

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Написано Tirpitz406, 03.05.2014 at 15:46

Well...i think yes, people should be treated the same way no matter what they are doing, i mean, can you blame someone for doing something like a year ago?
Yes, yes you can. It's like a person who beat someone up a year ago. If the police finally catch him, he still gets punished. Your logic is shit.

but waffel already got muted for what he did a year ago...got it?
So what? It means he has not learned his lesson if he keeps up this shit.

Keeps up with this shit? cmon dude. I didnt even start this shit and I got punished the hardest. Even the starter of this whole thing didnt get a harder punishment. If this were you, you would also do something about it. So stop talking like you are the bom.com because you aren't
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Написано Columna Durruti, 05.05.2014 at 06:40

Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

The thing is. you guys dont know how to punish people anymore so just ban or mute without even having a RULE of that written.

There are criteria defined in mod forum. Our actions, regarding certain types of offenses have become more systematic; according to the collective mod experience
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

Ofc you will make a new rule about this now and use it against me, thats how you guys work.

So, basically, this whole thread is about you? I thought you said in the begging of this topic that it was more of a general discussion? No, this is not how WE work (whatever WE may mean). Actually, I think that you guys imagine the mod crew as being homogenic and that we discuss every single issue related to the game. There are few discussions, going straight to the "hard" cases and "hard" issues. All of us do this job on voluntary basis, sacrificing game-time (fun-time).
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

But actually thinking that you have more rights then another person in this game because you got an ''~'' Emblem infront of your name is just wrong.. Also saying that this is how the world works.

Actually we do not have "more rights" but more privileges (and, thus, more obligations).
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

How about prison? They give those people a second chance.

Serious? We have been granting second and third chances to many players. Otherwise there is a bunch of 10-20 players that would currently not be around.
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

But forreal a retarded person called death1812 is sending pics of him jerking off on photos, there is a clan filled with pedo's, tik-tok talking about ''niggers'' that they should die and they are nothing worth. ALL OF THIS WAS IN THE PUBLIC ROOM?

They all have been muted, re-muted, banned from forums, re-banned from forums, banned for days, etc.
Написано Waffel, 03.05.2014 at 18:56

but a guy called waffel globaling something which isnt an advertise -> Mute/ban. Srsly and you guys tell me about the ''large history'' Obviously people who dont have an ''large history'' may say the same thing as a person that has a ''large history'' but wont get punished exactly the same way? -.-

Ok, so this whole topic is about you and not the general discussion you so vehemently announced in the first threads... again, players are dealt with the best way we know. If there is a player that has a history of offenses, trolling, bitching, aggressions, misconducts, etc. then this player wil be dealt with differently than a player that has no record. I guess you don't get this point and you cannot accept that there are limits. If you construct your own "bad-ass" image, you will be dealt as a "bad-ass"... there is no way around. This is exactly the price a player has to pay for receiving a second, third, fourth, etc. chance.


No, this whole topic isnt about me. I just commented on a comment. Maybe you should try to understand it instead of getting butthurt and offended if i talk about mods. Because that he only thing you guys do. Talk along with other stuff but never accept critics about your self. And you guys deffinitly think that you have more rights than us. If you can read tophats also said it in the convo. Instead of hating now. You could also ask your self the question :'' maybe I did something wrong or whatever. If you didn't dont even get offended because then im not talkin about you. And I remember you muting me for fake pr's of people who trolled me. Even while the person it self told you it was a fake pr just for a laugh, you didnt unmute me. So dont even start here sir.
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Написано Waffel, 05.05.2014 at 07:19

No, this whole topic isnt about me. I just commented on a comment. Maybe you should try to understand it instead of getting butthurt and offended if i talk about mods. Because that he only thing you guys do. Talk along with other stuff but never accept critics about your self. And you guys deffinitly think that you have more rights than us. If you can read tophats also said it in the convo. Instead of hating now. You could also ask your self the question :'' maybe I did something wrong or whatever. If you didn't dont even get offended because then im not talkin about you. And I remember you muting me for fake pr's of people who trolled me. Even while the person it self told you it was a fake pr just for a laugh, you didnt unmute me. So dont even start here sir.

I really try to understand and I'm definitely not butthurt. Actually my last post was written with a constructive intention, but also to point out that you are engaging in a logic that leads to nowhere. Actually, that you are attempting to limit your own responsibilities.
Accepting critics about ourselves. Sure, there are several points made previously that I have to agree upon; with or without you referring to tophats. Please do not use tophats as reference for what is tru and what is not true. As to what could be some lines of (constructive) inquiry into a mods general "mea culpa":
  • Having different opinions on how to implement mutes and bans: How can mods use the same criteria (and judgement) about using mutes and bans? Is it possible? Do we want this? My particular opinion: it is not possible.
  • Dealing with trouble players: what are the basis on which we grant second, third, fourth, etc. chances to players? Are we communicating these players that they have to behave better in future or "penalties" will be applied harder? Is it clear to these players or are we "just" assuming they know?
  • Perma-problem players: how to deal with players that are permanently on the edge of infractions? How to deal with players' aggressions?
  • SP farming: how to deal with SP farmers (that have increased dramatically over the past weeks and months)?


These are a series of important questions we are currently trying to deal with. Sufficiently? Ofc not! We are a bunch of community members that accepted the challenge to keep a minimum of order within the general chaos. Now I ask you (again, in a constructive manner, definitely not butthurt): which side are you adding to?

Last, your record is not the largest one, but also not a reflection of innocence. Your last mute/ban (5 days) was... you know why. Btw, I do not unmute players that have been muted by other Mods; if any Mod does this, it is up to him. I respect other Mods decisions and can only undo what I have done. As far as I can recall (and check the history), I "just" muted you once and it was for sending on global a SWF link that leads to pen multiple browser windows, requiring a player to shut down the browser to avoid PC crash. Is this cool to send on global, knowing that some players are in game?
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Написано Waffel, 05.05.2014 at 07:19

No, this whole topic isnt about me. I just commented on a comment. Maybe you should try to understand it instead of getting butthurt and offended if i talk about mods. Because that he only thing you guys do. Talk along with other stuff but never accept critics about your self. And you guys deffinitly think that you have more rights than us. If you can read tophats also said it in the convo. Instead of hating now. You could also ask your self the question :'' maybe I did something wrong or whatever. If you didn't dont even get offended because then im not talkin about you. And I remember you muting me for fake pr's of people who trolled me. Even while the person it self told you it was a fake pr just for a laugh, you didnt unmute me. So dont even start here sir.

I really try to understand and I'm definitely not butthurt. Actually my last post was written with a constructive intention, but also to point out that you are engaging in a logic that leads to nowhere. Actually, that you are attempting to limit your own responsibilities.
Accepting critics about ourselves. Sure, there are several points made previously that I have to agree upon; with or without you referring to tophats. Please do not use tophats as reference for what is tru and what is not true. As to what could be some lines of (constructive) inquiry into a mods general "mea culpa":
  • Having different opinions on how to implement mutes and bans: How can mods use the same criteria (and judgement) about using mutes and bans? Is it possible? Do we want this? My particular opinion: it is not possible.
  • Dealing with trouble players: what are the basis on which we grant second, third, fourth, etc. chances to players? Are we communicating these players that they have to behave better in future or "penalties" will be applied harder? Is it clear to these players or are we "just" assuming they know?
  • Perma-problem players: how to deal with players that are permanently on the edge of infractions? How to deal with players' aggressions?
  • SP farming: how to deal with SP farmers (that have increased dramatically over the past weeks and months)?


These are a series of important questions we are currently trying to deal with. Sufficiently? Ofc not! We are a bunch of community members that accepted the challenge to keep a minimum of order within the general chaos. Now I ask you (again, in a constructive manner, definitely not butthurt): which side are you adding to?

Last, your record is not the largest one, but also not a reflection of innocence. Your last mute/ban (5 days) was... you know why. Btw, I do not unmute players that have been muted by other Mods; if any Mod does this, it is up to him. I respect other Mods decisions and can only undo what I have done. As far as I can recall (and check the history), I "just" muted you once and it was for sending on global a SWF link that leads to pen multiple browser windows, requiring a player to shut down the browser to avoid PC crash. Is this cool to send on global, knowing that some players are in game?

Look, Ofc i make some jokes or insulting stuff which some people dont like. But also some people do like it. It is a sense of humor somepeople accept and some dont. How can you mute someone for some jokes if you have your own opinion about it? You say the truth is not somethign for tophats to say. But you guys are muting people within the reasons thats it wrong to do. But who said it was wrong? who are you to call it wrong or good. I am just trying to enjoy to play in atwar. And maybe some people dont like me. I dont care about them? But you guys are almost forcing me to chance because ''i dont fit in this community'' Alex meza is daily globalling about join the FARM MAP hexagon, There are threads about farming maps. And you guys are telling us that you do somethin about it. But doesn't look like it. i know its not that easy as it sounds being a mod. But if you are choosing to mute/ban somebody come with a legit reason. And most of the mods aint even willing to discuss with me why i am mute or banned. All they say is '' rule blabla reffering to some link'' But some links dont even work? And if i say something about it all i get back is '' Dont be a smartass'' -.- How in godsake i need to communicate with those kind of people?
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Написано Columna Durruti, 05.05.2014 at 07:43

Написано Waffel, 05.05.2014 at 07:19

No, this whole topic isnt about me. I just commented on a comment. Maybe you should try to understand it instead of getting butthurt and offended if i talk about mods. Because that he only thing you guys do. Talk along with other stuff but never accept critics about your self. And you guys deffinitly think that you have more rights than us. If you can read tophats also said it in the convo. Instead of hating now. You could also ask your self the question :'' maybe I did something wrong or whatever. If you didn't dont even get offended because then im not talkin about you. And I remember you muting me for fake pr's of people who trolled me. Even while the person it self told you it was a fake pr just for a laugh, you didnt unmute me. So dont even start here sir.

I really try to understand and I'm definitely not butthurt. Actually my last post was written with a constructive intention, but also to point out that you are engaging in a logic that leads to nowhere. Actually, that you are attempting to limit your own responsibilities.
Accepting critics about ourselves. Sure, there are several points made previously that I have to agree upon; with or without you referring to tophats. Please do not use tophats as reference for what is tru and what is not true. As to what could be some lines of (constructive) inquiry into a mods general "mea culpa":
  • Having different opinions on how to implement mutes and bans: How can mods use the same criteria (and judgement) about using mutes and bans? Is it possible? Do we want this? My particular opinion: it is not possible.
  • Dealing with trouble players: what are the basis on which we grant second, third, fourth, etc. chances to players? Are we communicating these players that they have to behave better in future or "penalties" will be applied harder? Is it clear to these players or are we "just" assuming they know?
  • Perma-problem players: how to deal with players that are permanently on the edge of infractions? How to deal with players' aggressions?
  • SP farming: how to deal with SP farmers (that have increased dramatically over the past weeks and months)?


These are a series of important questions we are currently trying to deal with. Sufficiently? Ofc not! We are a bunch of community members that accepted the challenge to keep a minimum of order within the general chaos. Now I ask you (again, in a constructive manner, definitely not butthurt): which side are you adding to?

Last, your record is not the largest one, but also not a reflection of innocence. Your last mute/ban (5 days) was... you know why. Btw, I do not unmute players that have been muted by other Mods; if any Mod does this, it is up to him. I respect other Mods decisions and can only undo what I have done. As far as I can recall (and check the history), I "just" muted you once and it was for sending on global a SWF link that leads to pen multiple browser windows, requiring a player to shut down the browser to avoid PC crash. Is this cool to send on global, knowing that some players are in game?

Look, Ofc i make some jokes or insulting stuff which some people dont like. But also some people do like it. It is a sense of humor somepeople accept and some dont. How can you mute someone for some jokes if you have your own opinion about it? You say the truth is not somethign for tophats to say. But you guys are muting people within the reasons thats it wrong to do. But who said it was wrong? who are you to call it wrong or good. I am just trying to enjoy to play in atwar. And maybe some people dont like me. I dont care about them? But you guys are almost forcing me to chance because ''i dont fit in this community'' Alex meza is daily globalling about join the FARM MAP hexagon, There are threads about farming maps. And you guys are telling us that you do somethin about it. But doesn't look like it. i know its not that easy as it sounds being a mod. But if you are choosing to mute/ban somebody come with a legit reason. And most of the mods aint even willing to discuss with me why i am mute or banned. All they say is '' rule blabla reffering to some link'' But some links dont even work? And if i say something about it all i get back is '' Dont be a smartass'' -.- How in godsake i need to communicate with those kind of people?

Tbh, Waffel has made many mistakes and such, but I've seen people do the same thing he's doing or even worse at the same time being, but for the majority of time Waffel gets in trouble but the other person only get's a "warning".Same has happened with me. Mods are biased sometimes, we all know it, don't deny it.
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05.05.2014 - 09:09
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Написано Waffel, 05.05.2014 at 07:15

Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 04:16

Написано Tirpitz406, 05.05.2014 at 04:03

Написано Guest, 05.05.2014 at 00:18

Написано Tirpitz406, 03.05.2014 at 15:46

Well...i think yes, people should be treated the same way no matter what they are doing, i mean, can you blame someone for doing something like a year ago?
Yes, yes you can. It's like a person who beat someone up a year ago. If the police finally catch him, he still gets punished. Your logic is shit.

but waffel already got muted for what he did a year ago...got it?
So what? It means he has not learned his lesson if he keeps up this shit.

Keeps up with this shit? cmon dude. I didnt even start this shit and I got punished the hardest. Even the starter of this whole thing didnt get a harder punishment. If this were you, you would also do something about it. So stop talking like you are the bom.com because you aren't
You may not have started but you continued it then.
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05.05.2014 - 20:31
Написано Waffel, 05.05.2014 at 07:52

Look, Ofc i make some jokes or insulting stuff which some people dont like. But also some people do like it. It is a sense of humor somepeople accept and some dont. How can you mute someone for some jokes if you have your own opinion about it? You say the truth is not somethign for tophats to say. But you guys are muting people within the reasons thats it wrong to do. But who said it was wrong? who are you to call it wrong or good. I am just trying to enjoy to play in atwar. And maybe some people dont like me. I dont care about them? But you guys are almost forcing me to chance because ''i dont fit in this community'' Alex meza is daily globalling about join the FARM MAP hexagon, There are threads about farming maps. And you guys are telling us that you do somethin about it. But doesn't look like it. i know its not that easy as it sounds being a mod. But if you are choosing to mute/ban somebody come with a legit reason. And most of the mods aint even willing to discuss with me why i am mute or banned. All they say is '' rule blabla reffering to some link'' But some links dont even work? And if i say something about it all i get back is '' Dont be a smartass'' -.- How in godsake i need to communicate with those kind of people?

  • I do not care about your jokes (in a Mod manner), actually I enjoy most of them! I personally do not think that you are an "ugly" member of this community, actually I regard you as an added value to AW. As player and acidly joking guy.
  • My mutes and bans - and, as far as it is to my knowledge, most of the mods share this position - are limited to trolling, insults, disrespect and farming.
  • Some farming maps (they are growing like mushrooms!) have been identified, the creators notified to unpublish/nerf them and if this is not done, admins just delete them. Mods do not have power to unpublish and/or delete maps/scenarios. Furthermore, players that farm are being dealt with. All of them? Unfortunately not.
  • Furthermore, we already have a protocol to deal with SP farming, a collective construction that took us some time to finalize. Every single SP farming, that we manage to identify and prove, is being punished the same way, without exceptions. Is it perfect? Probably not, but it is an ongoing construction with the best intentions and avoiding a penalization that becomes an objective by itself.
  • Last, but definitely not least, sometimes it is difficult to keep up communication and the constructive interchange of opinions. We - the mods - have limited time we can be online. Besides some gaming, which I haven't been doing much lately, we have to go through a lot of forum posts (some are really extensive and intensive, other we can just go through quickly), check the reports (some are complicated and require reviewing chat-logs, player profiles, IPs, ClkientID checks, etc.) and give answers. Furthermore, some Mods also lead coalitions and we have to dedicate some time to our closer community, etc. etc. etc. It is no apology for some mods (including myself!) behavior, just a back-ground information that may explain some issues.
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05.05.2014 - 20:37
Написано bullet86, 05.05.2014 at 07:56

Same has happened with me. Mods are biased sometimes, we all know it, don't deny it.

C'mon, your record is almost clean! You have been banned, cause you asked for it (literally!) and unbanned when you didn't want to be banned anymore. I muted you twice for spamming and for insulting... what else? Aren't you dramatizing a bit? Btw, you are a supporter (Elite!) and, as such, we depart from an exemplary behavior. Or is it wrong to assume this?
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