Free palestine

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:39

Israel just doesn't belong there and hasn't for a long time

>Implying the jews haven't lived there for literally thousands of years

Написано Viruslegion, 26.12.2016 at 22:26

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:39

Israel just doesn't belong there and hasn't for a long time

>Implying the jews haven't lived there for literally thousands of years

Yeah and they were kicked out... just like shit loads of other natives around the world but you don't see White Americans having to give up their land because there were others living there thousands of years before them

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 22:31

Yeah and they were kicked out... just like shit loads of other natives around the world but you don't see White Americans having to give up their land because there were others living there thousands of years before them

They were kicked out and then returned, and have since defended it from their barbaric, backwards neighbors countless times, they've fought for it and it's theirs, while the "Palestinians" are nothing but a plague

Написано Viruslegion, 26.12.2016 at 22:57

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 22:31

Yeah and they were kicked out... just like shit loads of other natives around the world but you don't see White Americans having to give up their land because there were others living there thousands of years before them

They were kicked out and then returned, and have since defended it from their barbaric, backwards neighbors countless times, they've fought for it and it's theirs, while the "Palestinians" are nothing but a plague

Only returned because Slave masters USA allowed it and continue to pay for their military so they can commit war crimes against the true owners of that territory. Why does Israel have to be so greedy?...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.theblaze.com/news/2016/12/26/israel-begins-punishing-countries-who-supported-u-n-resolution/amp/

Free palestine. Zionist crying like a puss.. now the whole world knows zionist agenda..theyre a war criminal

Zionist buildings houses in palestine land..shame

Написано Rock Lee, 26.12.2016 at 14:47

Написано The Tactician, 26.12.2016 at 03:32

One phone call from Trump and Sisi withdrew his proposal... such cowardice.

Thanks to New Zealand, Senegal and company, the resolution passed. A final thorn into the side of Trump by the Obama administration, and now Netenyahu doesn't want to withdraw from the illegal settlements because US didn't have their back... lol.

Israel has already been tried more than once in hague based on the international law and acquitted

the un can't just come up and deside what is legal and what is not based on pure interests. the international law is more complicated than that

well that's ironic. Using that logic, the UN 'partition' plan and the two other significant resolutions (can't remember their numbers) that support the creation of Israel are based on pure interest because the west needed a people for Jews to live, but international law is more complicated than that.

Fact of the matter is the British Mandate of Palestine should've received their promised conditional independence and became just Palestine, but because of the Holocaust and the millions of Jews displaced, the west thought it'd be a great idea to give Palestinian land to Jewish people and create two states instead of the one already existing. If Jewish people had simply migrated and lived in Palestine, then there would be no problem. Before the tension between Israel and the Arab world, Jews inhabited Egypt normally as Muslims and Christians inhabit it. Can't you see what they did? They divided a country based on ethnicity and belief. The UN, the supposed hub of human rights, freedom, and equality, decided to divide a nation because two different types of people live in it. How is that Palestine's fault? Why are the Palestinians not allowed to roam their whole land freely just because Jews were treated harshly in World War II. If the west really wanted to create a free state for Jews (not a violence-ridden country in land that isn't theirs to give), then they'd have created it somewhere in the west, where the land is theirs to give. Reality is it was strategic, because the US and UK simply wanted influence in the area; they wanted an ally in the region. It doesn't get more 'pure interest' than that.

Bottom line is, you can't claim that UN decisions now are based on pure interests and thus should be disregarded, because they always have been, and if not then you'd be living in Palestine as a person of Jewish ethnicity - nothing wrong or complicated about that.

Disclaimer: I have nothing against Jews in general, and don't think Israelis in the illegal settlements are at fault either, because they've been born into this mess, but I am opposed to the way Israel was created, and all that that implies. I believe the whole two countries should be one, Palestine: A land where Muslims and Jews co-inhabit.

Lol and people try to say they're the only ones in the middle east who have any sense of democracy...

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 00:08

Lol and people try to say they're the only ones in the middle east who have any sense of democracy...

This is the truth. Israel is the only democracy currently in the Middle East, however, Israel will not turn the other cheek. This is rational, firm and responsible response. A natural reaction of a healthy leadership that makes clear what was done at the United Nations isn't acceptable. And as well, isn't advancing anything but makes the exact opposite.

It blows my fucking mind as to how many dumb people in the world genuinely support Palestine, and every other terrorist country surrounding Israel.
I am not surprised about the Muslims in this thread though. They were raised from birth to hate Jews and Israel.

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:18

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 00:08

Lol and people try to say they're the only ones in the middle east who have any sense of democracy...

This is the truth. Israel is the only democracy currently in the Middle East, however, Israel will not turn the other cheek. This is rational, firm and responsible response. A natural reaction of a healthy leadership that makes clear what was done at the United Nations isn't acceptable. And as well, isn't advancing anything but makes the exact opposite.

We wont stand around while Israel go about doing as they please, bombing schools, killing innocent women and children, illegally occupying land that doesnt belong to them. Why is it Israel cant be satisfied with what they have been given by the worlds superpowers? So much greed... Israel is a made up country that doesn't belong there... once upon a time there might have been some jewish race occupying the territory but they are long gone... heck the last president was from Poland lol?

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:19

It blows my fucking mind as to how many dumb people in the world genuinely support Palestine, and every other terrorist country surrounding Israel.
I am not surprised about the Muslims in this thread though. They were raised from birth to hate Jews and Israel.

Israel built homes for israelis in palestine's land.bombing palestinian school,homes,school and hospitals..palestine have no military equipment strong as israel..the innocent citizen only have rock with them.to protect themselves from 12 zionist carrying rifles. Israel have jet fighters,tanks,warship and so on..now who is the terrorist here? Israeli fuck UN violating human rights and international law..who is the terrorist here? Israel is living a good life in palestinian land and youre saying palestine is a terrorist? 14-0 vote supporting palestine..see how mad zionist & netanyahu is..that shows who is the real terrorist & war criminal. Free Palestine

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 00:37

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:18

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 00:08

Lol and people try to say they're the only ones in the middle east who have any sense of democracy...

This is the truth. Israel is the only democracy currently in the Middle East, however, Israel will not turn the other cheek. This is rational, firm and responsible response. A natural reaction of a healthy leadership that makes clear what was done at the United Nations isn't acceptable. And as well, isn't advancing anything but makes the exact opposite.

We wont stand around while Israel go about doing as they please, bombing schools, killing innocent women and children, illegally occupying land that doesnt belong to them. Why is it Israel cant be satisfied with what they have been given by the worlds superpowers? So much greed... Israel is a made up country that doesn't belong there... once upon a time there might have been some jewish race occupying the territory but they are long gone... heck the last president was from Poland lol?

In the last 100 years most if not all the countries in this period of time were made up by the super powers of that time. How you think New Zealand was created? what about Saudi Arabia? Iraq? Jordan that until 1920s was part of the British Palestine, etc? You think they existed for eternity? At least Israel can claim this land was once theirs while the Palestinian people never existed before 1967.

As for the killing. Israel isn't killing any innocent people with the intention of doing so. Hamas and other terrorist organisations using the civilians as human Shields for their weapons, for their men and leadership. No country in the world does what Israel tries to do when it comes to collateral damage. Countless of times Israel canceled attacks on areas because there were civilians present, most of the time if not all the time Israel alert the people to evacuate the area because they are going to bomb it in a matter of minutes,  which sometimes ruin the element of surprise because the target escape thanks to being warned by the same people. Those terrorists put tons of rockets below schools, hospitals, and other community buildings. They even purposely let children play above strategically important areas to prevent any attack from Israel.

Let's make comparison. So far an estimated number of 400,000 people died in Syria in 5 years of civil war. Of which Russia killed 10,503 people. Out of those 10,503, estimated number of 5,000 were terrorists in little more than a year!
Israel in its entire existence since 1948 have killed an estimated 23,500 Palestinians terrorists and civilians during conflict and disturbance.

Half of what Israel has killed in just a year! Why you don't cry for the Syrians? Is it because you hate Jews so much that you blind your eyes to one event but care for another? You hypocritical bastard.

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 20:27

Написано Rock Lee, 26.12.2016 at 14:49

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

Dont forget malaysia too..we dont have any diplomatic relation with zionist

well you need to know that we are doing way better than malasyia and certainly don't need your nation

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

and recently pakistan threat israel with nuclear war..

HUE

We dont need your nation either..we actually fuck zionist..we spit on your flag and burn them..and also zionist licks usa's balls to get military aid

Burning people based on race, nationality, religion? Sounds like the intolerant muslims that apparantly don't represent your culture hmmmm?

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 00:46

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:19

It blows my fucking mind as to how many dumb people in the world genuinely support Palestine, and every other terrorist country surrounding Israel.
I am not surprised about the Muslims in this thread though. They were raised from birth to hate Jews and Israel.

Israel built homes for israelis in palestine's land.bombing palestinian school,homes,school and hospitals..palestine have no military equipment strong as israel..the innocent citizen only have rock with them.to protect themselves from 12 zionist carrying rifles. Israel have jet fighters,tanks,warship and so on..now who is the terrorist here? Israeli fuck UN violating human rights and international law..who is the terrorist here? Israel is living a good life in palestinian land and youre saying palestine is a terrorist? 14-0 vote supporting palestine..see how mad zionist & netanyahu is..that shows who is the real terrorist & war criminal. Free Palestine

You don't worth my time. Until you respond to these posts: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=28849
I'm not going to take anything you say as relevant. And it was 13-0 not 14-0. USA abstained from voting.

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 22:31

Написано Viruslegion, 26.12.2016 at 22:26

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:39

Israel just doesn't belong there and hasn't for a long time

>Implying the jews haven't lived there for literally thousands of years

Yeah and they were kicked out... just like shit loads of other natives around the world but you don't see White Americans having to give up their land because there were others living there thousands of years before them

Your right we gave them land, like alot of it, Natives own 2.7% of all American soil that's like 20 israels.

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 20:26

Написано Skanderbeg, 26.12.2016 at 14:27

Palestine is already free (Gaza & West Bank), your request is denied.

The whole israel.is palestine..zionist can go back to europe all of them.zionist..free palestine..israel should get out of palestine land..

Muslims can go back to arabia aswell right?

#FREEPERSIA #FREEEGYPT #FREEANATOLIA #FREEPAKISTAN #FREEAFGHANISTAN #FREELAVANT #FREEKHAZAKHISTAN #FREETURKMENISTAN #FREEALGERIA
#FREEUZBKEHISTAN #FREEKYRHIGISTAN #FREELYBIA #FREETUNIS #FREEMORROCCO

Should I go on about the places your fucked up culture has converted by the sword? Now we live in this fucked up world where innocent people are brought into this world forced into a religion of murder, and brought up there entire lives being told its the proper way to live, this shit has costed me good friends because good people worship a shit religion and protect a massive amount of rapist murderers goat fucking extremists.

Geuss what? If I was born in Syria or iraq, instead of Germany geuss what I'd be? Islamic because there is no choice, a child can not choose, a teenager can not choose, a adult can not choose, it's islam or death, in a modern world like this there is no room for savagery such as that. If a greek marries an Arab geuss what? Now she's muslim, no fucking choice and that is what is wrong with your culture, and why I can't support islam no matter the good people I meet like Tact, or shit balls like Commando. Untill islam becomes less important then humanity I'll look at it from afar with disdain, and support global efforts against its brutality period.

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:19

It blows my fucking mind as to how many dumb people in the world genuinely support Palestine, and every other terrorist country surrounding Israel.
I am not surprised about the Muslims in this thread though. They were raised from birth to hate Jews and Israel.

Написано The Tactician, 26.12.2016 at 23:50

Disclaimer: I have nothing against Jews in general, and don't think Israelis in the illegal settlements are at fault either, because they've been born into this mess, but I am opposed to the way Israel was created, and all that that implies. I believe the whole two countries should be one, Palestine: A land where Muslims and Jews co-inhabit.

Написано Viruslegion, 26.12.2016 at 22:26

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:39

Israel just doesn't belong there and hasn't for a long time

>Implying the jews haven't lived there for literally thousands of years

Jews aren't synonymous with Israelis. Jews could've lived in Palestine, rather than the west forcing their own state just because they needed a strategical ally in the region. The whole foundation which Israel is built upon is based on western interest, built on the expense of Palestinian life and land.

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:59

Let's make comparison. So far an estimated number of 400,000 people died in Syria in 5 years of civil war. Of which Russia killed 10,503 people. Out of those 10,503, estimated number of 5,000 were terrorists in little more than a year!
Israel in its entire existence since 1948 have killed an estimated 23,500 Palestinians terrorists and civilians during conflict and disturbance.

Half of what Israel has killed in just a year! Why you don't cry for the Syrians? Is it because you hate Jews so much that you blind your eyes to one event but care for another? You hypocritical bastard.

What's happening in Syria is disgusting and very wrong, but that doesn't make what's happening/happened to Palestine any less wrong.
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I will refer you guys back to my post because it is one of the only rational pro-Palestine posts of this page (aside from Trystane's), which you conveniently skipped.

Написано The Tactician, 26.12.2016 at 23:50

well that's ironic. Using that logic, the UN 'partition' plan and the two other significant resolutions (can't remember their numbers) that support the creation of Israel are based on pure interest because the west needed a people for Jews to live, but international law is more complicated than that.

Fact of the matter is the British Mandate of Palestine should've received their promised conditional independence and became just Palestine, but because of the Holocaust and the millions of Jews displaced, the west thought it'd be a great idea to give Palestinian land to Jewish people and create two states instead of the one already existing. If Jewish people had simply migrated and lived in Palestine, then there would be no problem. Before the tension between Israel and the Arab world, Jews inhabited Egypt normally as Muslims and Christians inhabit it. Can't you see what they did? They divided a country based on ethnicity and belief. The UN, the supposed hub of human rights, freedom, and equality, decided to divide a nation because two different types of people live in it. How is that Palestine's fault? Why are the Palestinians not allowed to roam their whole land freely just because Jews were treated harshly in World War II. If the west really wanted to create a free state for Jews (not a violence-ridden country in land that isn't theirs to give), then they'd have created it somewhere in the west, where the land is theirs to give. Reality is it was strategic, because the US and UK simply wanted influence in the area; they wanted an ally in the region. It doesn't get more 'pure interest' than that.

Bottom line is, you can't claim that UN decisions now are based on pure interests and thus should be disregarded, because they always have been, and if not then you'd be living in Palestine as a person of Jewish ethnicity - nothing wrong or complicated about that.

Disclaimer: I have nothing against Jews in general, and don't think Israelis in the illegal settlements are at fault either, because they've been born into this mess, but I am opposed to the way Israel was created, and all that that implies. I believe the whole two countries should be one, Palestine: A land where Muslims and Jews co-inhabit.

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:04

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 20:26

Написано Skanderbeg, 26.12.2016 at 14:27

Palestine is already free (Gaza & West Bank), your request is denied.

The whole israel.is palestine..zionist can go back to europe all of them.zionist..free palestine..israel should get out of palestine land..

Muslims can go back to arabia aswell right?

Muslims are everywhere not just middle east..get your favts right

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:00

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 20:27

Написано Rock Lee, 26.12.2016 at 14:49

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

Dont forget malaysia too..we dont have any diplomatic relation with zionist

well you need to know that we are doing way better than malasyia and certainly don't need your nation

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

and recently pakistan threat israel with nuclear war..

HUE

We dont need your nation either..we actually fuck zionist..we spit on your flag and burn them..and also zionist licks usa's balls to get military aid

Burning people based on race, nationality, religion? Sounds like the intolerant muslims that apparantly don't represent your culture hmmmm?

When did we say we burn.people? Zionist is a disgrace to the whole world. Theyre a war criminal..

Написано The Tactician, 27.12.2016 at 01:20

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:19

It blows my fucking mind as to how many dumb people in the world genuinely support Palestine, and every other terrorist country surrounding Israel.
I am not surprised about the Muslims in this thread though. They were raised from birth to hate Jews and Israel.

Написано The Tactician, 26.12.2016 at 23:50

Disclaimer: I have nothing against Jews in general, and don't think Israelis in the illegal settlements are at fault either, because they've been born into this mess, but I am opposed to the way Israel was created, and all that that implies. I believe the whole two countries should be one, Palestine: A land where Muslims and Jews co-inhabit.

Написано Viruslegion, 26.12.2016 at 22:26

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:39

Israel just doesn't belong there and hasn't for a long time

>Implying the jews haven't lived there for literally thousands of years

Jews aren't synonymous with Israelis. Jews could've lived in Palestine, rather than the west forcing their own state just because they needed a strategical ally in the region. The whole foundation which Israel is built upon is based on western interest, built on the expense of Palestinian life and land.

I will refer you guys back to my post because it is one of the only rational pro-Palestine posts of this page (aside from Trystane's), which you conveniently skipped.

Написано The Tactician, 26.12.2016 at 23:50

well that's ironic. Using that logic, the UN 'partition' plan and the two other significant resolutions (can't remember their numbers) that support the creation of Israel are based on pure interest because the west needed a people for Jews to live, but international law is more complicated than that.

Fact of the matter is the British Mandate of Palestine should've received their promised conditional independence and became just Palestine, but because of the Holocaust and the millions of Jews displaced, the west thought it'd be a great idea to give Palestinian land to Jewish people and create two states instead of the one already existing. If Jewish people had simply migrated and lived in Palestine, then there would be no problem. Before the tension between Israel and the Arab world, Jews inhabited Egypt normally as Muslims and Christians inhabit it. Can't you see what they did? They divided a country based on ethnicity and belief. The UN, the supposed hub of human rights, freedom, and equality, decided to divide a nation because two different types of people live in it. How is that Palestine's fault? Why are the Palestinians not allowed to roam their whole land freely just because Jews were treated harshly in World War II. If the west really wanted to create a free state for Jews (not a violence-ridden country in land that isn't theirs to give), then they'd have created it somewhere in the west, where the land is theirs to give. Reality is it was strategic, because the US and UK simply wanted influence in the area; they wanted an ally in the region. It doesn't get more 'pure interest' than that.

Bottom line is, you can't claim that UN decisions now are based on pure interests and thus should be disregarded, because they always have been, and if not then you'd be living in Palestine as a person of Jewish ethnicity - nothing wrong or complicated about that.

Disclaimer: I have nothing against Jews in general, and don't think Israelis in the illegal settlements are at fault either, because they've been born into this mess, but I am opposed to the way Israel was created, and all that that implies. I believe the whole two countries should be one, Palestine: A land where Muslims and Jews co-inhabit.

If everyone was as level headed as you are in the middle east there would not be these sorts of issues. If jews could live a life the same as you and worship there god in there own churches and supports there own communities, in arabia, I'd have nothing to fight about. But ask yourself are there any churches in mecca? Tolerance is important, there is a place called Dearborn in michigan, they make world famous beef suasage, it's a place with 88% islamic community in a christian nation who can have the same exact life I can. That's why I disagree with all of these discussions.

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 01:30

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:04

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 20:26

Написано Skanderbeg, 26.12.2016 at 14:27

Palestine is already free (Gaza & West Bank), your request is denied.

The whole israel.is palestine..zionist can go back to europe all of them.zionist..free palestine..israel should get out of palestine land..

Muslims can go back to arabia aswell right?

Muslims are everywhere not just middle east..get your favts right

Sooo, mylasians where muslim prior to the 8th century?

Ps and jews are not?

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 01:31

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:00

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 20:27

Написано Rock Lee, 26.12.2016 at 14:49

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

Dont forget malaysia too..we dont have any diplomatic relation with zionist

well you need to know that we are doing way better than malasyia and certainly don't need your nation

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

and recently pakistan threat israel with nuclear war..

HUE

We dont need your nation either..we actually fuck zionist..we spit on your flag and burn them..and also zionist licks usa's balls to get military aid

Burning people based on race, nationality, religion? Sounds like the intolerant muslims that apparantly don't represent your culture hmmmm?

When did we say we burn.people? Zionist is a disgrace to the whole world. Theyre a war criminal..

Your right I misread you said burn flag, I recant.

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:13

#FREEPERSIA #FREEEGYPT #FREEANATOLIA #FREEPAKISTAN #FREEAFGHANISTAN #FREELAVANT #FREEKHAZAKHISTAN #FREETURKMENISTAN #FREEALGERIA
#FREEUZBKEHISTAN #FREEKYRHIGISTAN #FREELYBIA #FREETUNIS #FREEMORROCCO

Should I go on about the places your fucked up culture has converted by the sword? Now we live in this fucked up world where innocent people are brought into this world forced into a religion of murder, and brought up there entire lives being told its the proper way to live, this shit has costed me good friends because good people worship a shit religion and protect a massive amount of rapist murderers goat fucking extremists.

Geuss what? If I was born in Syria or iraq, instead of Germany geuss what I'd be? Islamic because there is no choice, a child can not choose, a teenager can not choose, a adult can not choose, it's islam or death, in a modern world like this there is no room for savagery such as that. If a greek marries an Arab geuss what? Now she's muslim, no fucking choice and that is what is wrong with your culture, and why I can't support islam no matter the good people I meet like Tact, or shit balls like Commando. Untill islam becomes less important then humanity I'll look at it from afar with disdain, and support global efforts against its brutality period.

Listen. We muslims jave strong belief in our own religion. We are a devout muslim. There ate christians that convert to islam without force. They did it willingly..and we muslims will never force them to marry us..if we want to marry them they have to convert to islam..and if they dont want to? We dont marry them. You dont know islam..most christian that studies islam eventually convert tp islam..why? They got their answer..youre an ignorant bulldog that only knows about arab culture..not islam..you wanna know islam? There chinese muslim, indian muslim, white muslim , african muslim , malay muslim..latino muslim..and trust me we dont force people to convert to islam..if they dont want to then that's fine..my grandmorher was a puerto rican and a catholic. She marries my grandfather and convert to islam..shes a devout muslim now. She never misses her prayers..and guess what? She convert willingly to marry my grandfather..there are many muslim in this world. Not just arabs. Get your facts right. If we were to force people to convert to islam.the whole malaysian would beclme a muslim. I'll let you know something you dont. In malaysia theres a lot of religion and we respect each other alot..the leading religion here is islam..2nd christianity 3rd buddhism..and so on.. we didnt force them.to convert to islam..we didnt force them to marry us. Its an individual choice..of course if a christian wants to marry a muslim he/she have to convert to islam. Because we wont leave islam. We have strong faith in islam. Free palestine

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:39

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 01:31

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:00

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 20:27

Написано Rock Lee, 26.12.2016 at 14:49

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

Dont forget malaysia too..we dont have any diplomatic relation with zionist

well you need to know that we are doing way better than malasyia and certainly don't need your nation

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 04:05

and recently pakistan threat israel with nuclear war..

HUE

We dont need your nation either..we actually fuck zionist..we spit on your flag and burn them..and also zionist licks usa's balls to get military aid

Burning people based on race, nationality, religion? Sounds like the intolerant muslims that apparantly don't represent your culture hmmmm?

When did we say we burn.people? Zionist is a disgrace to the whole world. Theyre a war criminal..

Your right I misread you said burn flag, I recant.

Burn flag isnt as disgrace as stealing people's land and killing innocent people like what zionist did

Написано Guest, 27.12.2016 at 01:42

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:13

#FREEPERSIA #FREEEGYPT #FREEANATOLIA #FREEPAKISTAN #FREEAFGHANISTAN #FREELAVANT #FREEKHAZAKHISTAN #FREETURKMENISTAN #FREEALGERIA
#FREEUZBKEHISTAN #FREEKYRHIGISTAN #FREELYBIA #FREETUNIS #FREEMORROCCO

Should I go on about the places your fucked up culture has converted by the sword? Now we live in this fucked up world where innocent people are brought into this world forced into a religion of murder, and brought up there entire lives being told its the proper way to live, this shit has costed me good friends because good people worship a shit religion and protect a massive amount of rapist murderers goat fucking extremists.

Geuss what? If I was born in Syria or iraq, instead of Germany geuss what I'd be? Islamic because there is no choice, a child can not choose, a teenager can not choose, a adult can not choose, it's islam or death, in a modern world like this there is no room for savagery such as that. If a greek marries an Arab geuss what? Now she's muslim, no fucking choice and that is what is wrong with your culture, and why I can't support islam no matter the good people I meet like Tact, or shit balls like Commando. Untill islam becomes less important then humanity I'll look at it from afar with disdain, and support global efforts against its brutality period.

Listen. We muslims jave strong belief in our own religion. We are a devout muslim. There ate christians that convert to islam without force. They did it willingly..and we muslims will never force them to marry us..if we want to marry them they have to convert to islam..and if they dont want to? We dont marry them. You dont know islam..most christian that studies islam eventually convert tp islam..why? They got their answer..youre an ignorant bulldog that only knows about arab culture..not islam..you wanna know islam? There chinese muslim, indian muslim, white muslim , african muslim , malay muslim..latino muslim..and trust me we dont force people to convert to islam..if they dont want to then that's fine..my grandmorher was a puerto rican and a catholic. She marries my grandfather and convert to islam..shes a devout muslim now. She never misses her prayers..and guess what? She convert willingly to marry my grandfather..there are many muslim in this world. Not just arabs. Get your facts right. If we were to force people to convert to islam.the whole malaysian would beclme a muslim. I'll let you know something you dont. In malaysia theres a lot of religion and we respect each other alot..the leading religion here is islam..2nd christianity 3rd buddhism..and so on.. we didnt force them.to convert to islam..we didnt force them to marry us. Its an individual choice..of course if a christian wants to marry a muslim he/she have to convert to islam. Because we wont leave islam. We have strong faith in islam. Free palestine

Except I am not christian and belong to no anti muslim church, my opinion is my own and it is based on the historical conflicts of the mamluks, umyadds, ottomans,abbasids, timurids, and seljuk, can you tell me what they did to create the modern climate we have today is justfied?

Написано The Tactician, 27.12.2016 at 01:20

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:19

It blows my fucking mind as to how many dumb people in the world genuinely support Palestine, and every other terrorist country surrounding Israel.
I am not surprised about the Muslims in this thread though. They were raised from birth to hate Jews and Israel.

Написано The Tactician, 26.12.2016 at 23:50

Disclaimer: I have nothing against Jews in general, and don't think Israelis in the illegal settlements are at fault either, because they've been born into this mess, but I am opposed to the way Israel was created, and all that that implies. I believe the whole two countries should be one, Palestine: A land where Muslims and Jews co-inhabit.

Написано Viruslegion, 26.12.2016 at 22:26

Написано Guest, 26.12.2016 at 19:39

Israel just doesn't belong there and hasn't for a long time

>Implying the jews haven't lived there for literally thousands of years

Jews aren't synonymous with Israelis. Jews could've lived in Palestine, rather than the west forcing their own state just because they needed a strategical ally in the region. The whole foundation which Israel is built upon is based on western interest, built on the expense of Palestinian life and land.

Написано Netzer, 27.12.2016 at 00:59

Let's make comparison. So far an estimated number of 400,000 people died in Syria in 5 years of civil war. Of which Russia killed 10,503 people. Out of those 10,503, estimated number of 5,000 were terrorists in little more than a year!
Israel in its entire existence since 1948 have killed an estimated 23,500 Palestinians terrorists and civilians during conflict and disturbance.

Half of what Israel has killed in just a year! Why you don't cry for the Syrians? Is it because you hate Jews so much that you blind your eyes to one event but care for another? You hypocritical bastard.

What's happening in Syria is disgusting and very wrong, but that doesn't make what's happening/happened to Palestine any less wrong.
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I will refer you guys back to my post because it is one of the only rational pro-Palestine posts of this page (aside from Trystane's), which you conveniently skipped.

Написано The Tactician, 26.12.2016 at 23:50

well that's ironic. Using that logic, the UN 'partition' plan and the two other significant resolutions (can't remember their numbers) that support the creation of Israel are based on pure interest because the west needed a people for Jews to live, but international law is more complicated than that.

Fact of the matter is the British Mandate of Palestine should've received their promised conditional independence and became just Palestine, but because of the Holocaust and the millions of Jews displaced, the west thought it'd be a great idea to give Palestinian land to Jewish people and create two states instead of the one already existing. If Jewish people had simply migrated and lived in Palestine, then there would be no problem. Before the tension between Israel and the Arab world, Jews inhabited Egypt normally as Muslims and Christians inhabit it. Can't you see what they did? They divided a country based on ethnicity and belief. The UN, the supposed hub of human rights, freedom, and equality, decided to divide a nation because two different types of people live in it. How is that Palestine's fault? Why are the Palestinians not allowed to roam their whole land freely just because Jews were treated harshly in World War II. If the west really wanted to create a free state for Jews (not a violence-ridden country in land that isn't theirs to give), then they'd have created it somewhere in the west, where the land is theirs to give. Reality is it was strategic, because the US and UK simply wanted influence in the area; they wanted an ally in the region. It doesn't get more 'pure interest' than that.

Bottom line is, you can't claim that UN decisions now are based on pure interests and thus should be disregarded, because they always have been, and if not then you'd be living in Palestine as a person of Jewish ethnicity - nothing wrong or complicated about that.

Disclaimer: I have nothing against Jews in general, and don't think Israelis in the illegal settlements are at fault either, because they've been born into this mess, but I am opposed to the way Israel was created, and all that that implies. I believe the whole two countries should be one, Palestine: A land where Muslims and Jews co-inhabit.

Not hard to put up a face and say you don't hate Jews.  How would I know? You can be part of the Muslim brotherhood or a sympathiser of Hamas or other terror groups. Or something else along the line.




During world war 1, the British promised to help the Jews establish a Jewish state on the land of the ancient Jewish Kingdom if they assist in the war efforts against Germany. Which they did.

And in 1917 the Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour sent a letter to the leader of the Jewish community in Britain. Which says :

"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I would like also to mention that before Israel was created Palestine was known as a Jewish land even had a flag with Jewish flavour, as we can see from this picture that was taken from a French encyclopedia from 1939:


It's in the second row from right side, 2 flags blow.


Clearer view.



Arabs protested the Balfour declaration and started killing Jews in pogroms. And thus Britain splitted Palestine to 2 entities, one on the east side of the Jordan river called Transjordan on the river name, for Arabs, and Palestine for Jews. The British forcibly evacuated the Jews from the Jordanian area even though those Jews bought those lands fairly, yet the British didn't transport the Arabs in Palestine to Jordan.
Same scenario happened 20 years later with the Arabs in Palestine asking a syate for themselves. When the UN partition was up for vote the world agreed to 2 states for 2 people. The Arab world including the Palestinian Arabs rejected this decision and lunched a massive war of annihilation against the Jews of Israel, chanting to throw us to the sea, or finish what Hitler started. They lost
 Egypt held Gaza,  Jordan held the West Bank, for 19 years! Why in those 19 years the Palestinian Arabs haven't formed their nation? Because there is no such thing as a Palestinian people, never was. This is just a way to hurt Israel since any war the Arabs lunched against Israel was a miserable failure.


Israel is not a puppet state of the West.  USA had embargo on Israel for a long time from its foundation until around 60s. They did it to curry favour with the Arabs. When USA realise Israel is a strong country that isn't going to fade anytime soon, they started to foster a relationship with our country. And the military aid is beneficial for both sides, however Israel can continue to stand without it.
Egypt also receive this military aid.
This was part of the deal when Israel and Egypt signed peace treaty, which included giving the land of Sinai peninsula. A land that is 3 times bigger than Israel that also have natural gases, oil reserve, and strategic depth importance back to Egypt.

Despite receiving the same amount or military aid as Israel, how is Egypt's military? Not anything close to Israel.

It's always the same, ignore my questions and call me ignorant, because as long as you don't answer you can't be wrong and you can continue this fars of aggression against the free people of the world.

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:13

Geuss what? If I was born in Syria or iraq, instead of Germany geuss what I'd be? Islamic because there is no choice, a child can not choose, a teenager can not choose, a adult can not choose, it's islam or death

This is not completely true. While I understand your perspective, you have to understand that Muslim people's action do not necessarily reflect Islam. For example, ISIS does not reflect Islam, as the KKK does not reflect Christianity. The actions you describe are like my example but to a lesser degree. What you're describing is Wahaabyism, a more extreme and minority way of thought in Islam. Wahabyism is practiced in Saudi Arabia, hence KSA's extreme image. However in Egypt, and most of the Arab world, we practice normal moderate Islam, where you will not die for disbelieving. You will not get tortured, imprisoned, or any other thing it is perceived will happen. Obviously, you will face cultural difficulties being a minority, the same way a Muslim would in USA.

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:13

If a greek marries an Arab geuss what? Now she's muslim, no fucking choice and that is what is wrong with your culture

Again, not true for most places. In the majority of the Islamic nation's, probably excluding KSA, Muslims marry people of the book normally and without ramification.

Написано Helly, 27.12.2016 at 01:31

If everyone was as level headed as you are in the middle east there would not be these sorts of issues. If jews could live a life the same as you and worship there god in there own churches and supports there own communities, in arabia, I'd have nothing to fight about. But ask yourself are there any churches in mecca? Tolerance is important, there is a place called Dearborn in michigan, they make world famous beef suasage, it's a place with 88% islamic community in a christian nation who can have the same exact life I can. That's why I disagree with all of these discussions.

I try to emulate my prophet, and the morals he lives by. I think any extremism or deviation from the peaceful origin of religion stems back to the following of cultural contexts and traditions whether right or wrong, rather than following the foundations and origins of the religion. Mohamed (peace and blessings be upon him) did not hate Jews, or Christians, or anyone at all. Hatred was an emotion never displayed by him, and that is what all people should attempt to emulate.

Excluding Saudi Arabia (which relates back to Wahaabyism), Christians have churches and worship God (not their God, but God, because we all worship the same God), and Jews were the same before Israel was made.They'd have lived in peace in Palestine, and the rest of the Arab world, but instead the west needed influence in the region, so they created this divide and tended to the Zionist sentiments which some Jewish people held.