Why do clans fail?
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I feel like there has never been a dicussion for this, but many people probably wonder, why do new clans fail? And what does it take for a new clan to strive?
Many people want to make a clan for a few reasons here are the main ones in my opinion
1.) Want there name on something
2.) Building a legacy
3.) For a group of friends
4.) Map making
Arguably many more categories but this is what I think. Not many clans in this era lets say 2013 until now have actually made it.
The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. Or some times egos can clash. Many clans died early on in the begginning heres a few; Bactria, American Pie Titans, Praetorian Clans , Immortal Spartans, Doomsday, The Outsiders, Pars, Alpha Omega. These are all new clans that couldn't make it past the first month. Some other clans that have died but showed potential are State of Mind and Killa Instinct.
The question is why? Why did these clans fail? Many of these founders of these clans were very excited to start something and it failed? Was it the lack of recruitment? I think it has to do with veterans not wanting to join their clans and the unwillingness to train someone. The only way you can be successful is by giving others a shot. For example, Syndicate was a major player in most of these clans today. Syndicate was basically the breeding ground of most people, myself included. Syndicate does things not many clans do which is give players a shot, maybe not as much today since Spart is inactive.
By complaining how this community does not have enough competitive clans is partially everyones fault, for not wanting to train new players. These new players could go out and make a clan like I did. It leads back to my point about clans failing because of not wanting to train lower ranks or give them a chance.
Another thing I see is clan hopping, many notable players are bouncing from clan to clan and not being able to find a spot. Losing a big name in your clan is never a good thing and it hurts a clans confidence moving forward. One of my reccomendations is not letting in any of these clan hoppers unless they are for real about wanting to stay and join. Un loyal members kill clans.. Thats why clans like Stalins, Syndicate, Illyria, MK, evoL and others are here. All of them have a group of core players who are loyal to one another.
I'm just trying to give people tips if they are looking to make a new clan that wont fail, clans are scarce already and I'd like to see some more, but i'd also like to hear your guys opinion on why new clans fail.
Many people want to make a clan for a few reasons here are the main ones in my opinion
1.) Want there name on something
2.) Building a legacy
3.) For a group of friends
4.) Map making
Arguably many more categories but this is what I think. Not many clans in this era lets say 2013 until now have actually made it.
The reason why I think a clan fails is over clan wars, obvious but the truth. When a clan war is lost many people like to blame eachother which cause unrest in a clan. Or some times egos can clash. Many clans died early on in the begginning heres a few; Bactria, American Pie Titans, Praetorian Clans , Immortal Spartans, Doomsday, The Outsiders, Pars, Alpha Omega. These are all new clans that couldn't make it past the first month. Some other clans that have died but showed potential are State of Mind and Killa Instinct.
The question is why? Why did these clans fail? Many of these founders of these clans were very excited to start something and it failed? Was it the lack of recruitment? I think it has to do with veterans not wanting to join their clans and the unwillingness to train someone. The only way you can be successful is by giving others a shot. For example, Syndicate was a major player in most of these clans today. Syndicate was basically the breeding ground of most people, myself included. Syndicate does things not many clans do which is give players a shot, maybe not as much today since Spart is inactive.
By complaining how this community does not have enough competitive clans is partially everyones fault, for not wanting to train new players. These new players could go out and make a clan like I did. It leads back to my point about clans failing because of not wanting to train lower ranks or give them a chance.
Another thing I see is clan hopping, many notable players are bouncing from clan to clan and not being able to find a spot. Losing a big name in your clan is never a good thing and it hurts a clans confidence moving forward. One of my reccomendations is not letting in any of these clan hoppers unless they are for real about wanting to stay and join. Un loyal members kill clans.. Thats why clans like Stalins, Syndicate, Illyria, MK, evoL and others are here. All of them have a group of core players who are loyal to one another.
I'm just trying to give people tips if they are looking to make a new clan that wont fail, clans are scarce already and I'd like to see some more, but i'd also like to hear your guys opinion on why new clans fail.
SM is not like SA, or any other clan for that matter. The natural hierarchy of the clan allows many leaders and players of influence to make decisions and run the clan. We are the longest lasting competitive clan for a reason.  Having said that, every time b0nker leaves it hurts because thats -1 leader, but he's always around and still helping us in CWs, games, SM Pizza Parties(these are legit the best games you could have), and general advice on running the clan. Even though SA are the receivers of a lot of speculation and criticism (by me, too) it always hurts to see a competitive clan go because that means one less clan to clash with. I hope the remainder of SA manage to pick themselves up or strengthen other clans. Cheers!
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SA didn't go anywhere, we are there, many of our members were busy (still are) but we are getting back active ---> autumn and winter coming 
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We talked about killing the clan, but SA is going no where. The Aces fundamental beliefs are true to hold us together through the storm. You better watch out, we are coming for you!
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 hahahaahah omg spart I love you <3 
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[pr] Nero: Ask Your Monkey
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Firstly, I didn't leave my clan, I am still with it. Secondly It was not my choice that SA merged with WTH. Long live the Shadow Aces, wherever we might be.
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SA = one man, one season clan. RIP.
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---- "There is a hero in all of us"
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Well when noobs make clans...it happens....when big guys are leaders that lasts forever.
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deviL made clan, will last 4ever
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AND HERE WE ARE, ALL OF OUR CLANS ARE DEAD HAHAHAHA. Edit: I think we know what kills clans... Real life!
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---- ''Everywhere where i am absent, they commit nothing but follies'' ~Napoleon 
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cough Illy cough.. thanks for that necro tho i enjoyed reading that. we had some good times old friend 
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DD 
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The whole reason why coalitions fail is because well...boredom...same 6 nations every game, I play dota for 7 years solid, do you now why? Because the game changes! Change to strategies change to heroes. This game has been the same since 2010. Everyone in history who has played games solid everyday gets burnt out and plays something different!
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you should pm laochra for dota..i am an old dota veteran myself, so im bored to babysit lao so he dont feed, but you should play with him.
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play ancient its a nice place
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