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Сообщение от Aetius, 22.08.2016 - 10:29
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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game

gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families

Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.

Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.

Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.


Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power

Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.

Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…

Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.

Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.

Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.

At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.

Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.


At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.

Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.

Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.

Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out

02.10.2016 - 02:29
Safari or Resting Lime; plz use your tribune to nominate zephyrusu as Dictator.. we need him to fix this dire situation, conventional methods have failed.
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02.10.2016 - 02:33
Consul: 1
Censor: 2
Praetor: 1
Africa: 1
Force Deployment: 1
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02.10.2016 - 07:13
 JF.
Concessions
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02.10.2016 - 08:58
Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987) +?

Censor Vote
1)Publius Numertorius (JF.)

Praetor Vote
1)Lars Pedius(Zenith)

Achaius Pontidius(mr tyler) as Governor of Africa?
1)Aye

Force Deployments
1)To fight the slaves in sicily-
1 fleet
9 Legions
Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria
Legio I Pugno

...and rest to protect Rome
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02.10.2016 - 10:44
Consul Vote (due to low population, the winning consul may pick his co-consul)
1) Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987) +? (Popularity difference)

Censor Vote
2)Sextus Varius (Meester)

Praetor Vote
1)Lars Pedius(Zenith)

PROPOSALS

Achaius Pontidius(mr tyler) as Governor of Africa?
1)Aye

Force Deployments
1)To fight the slaves in sicily-
1 fleet
9 Legions
Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria
Legio I Pugno

...and rest to protect Rome
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02.10.2016 - 11:03
 JF.
1) Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987) +?

Censor Vote
1)Publius Numertorius (JF.)

Praetor Vote
1)Lars Pedius(Zenith)

Achaius Pontidius(mr tyler) as Governor of Africa?
1)Aye

Force Deployments
1)
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02.10.2016 - 11:37
==Turn 22: Phase 3 has begun==
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02.10.2016 - 11:50
Tunder teaching how to be a better Roman...XAXA Inb4 Spanish revolt
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02.10.2016 - 12:20


Battle of Syracuse
Marcus Caetronianus (MrArmy987) (Flanking)
(1 Evocati +1 veteran +9 legions + 4 command)=18 strength
Slave Commander (Direct Charge)
(9 Armies) = 9 strength
Battle Roll: 10 (+8 from greater strength)-4 from tactical failure=14
Result: Bloody Victory

Seeking to flank the slaves defense, Marcus Caetronianus sent most of his army around the right and left Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria in the center to hold. Unexpectedly however, Tryphon himself led the slaves in a brave charge down the center, abandoning their defenses. Crashing into the weak roman middle the line almost buckled, the evocati fought extremely hard but the unit was all but destroyed. Roman disclipine and greater numbers won the day as Marcus returned with his flank but at what cost?

The slave leaders are crucified and the rest put to death. Roman rule, and roman societal class is absolute, if its broken, there must be consequences.

Marcus Caetronianus gains a veterean legion, Legio XVIII Caetronianum Pia Fidelis
Marcus Caetronianus gains 4 influence and 4 popularity
Marcus Caetronianus loses -1 popularity for losing 4 legions

Roman Casualties
-3 Legions
Legio Evocati XVI Numetoria


Slave Casualties
Total
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02.10.2016 - 12:34
The Triumvirate of liberators has decided upon the following for this year's campaigns:

Naval invasion of Cisalpine Gaul
Commander: Flavius Sertorius(Aetius)
Admiral: Andertius Paullus(Pavle)
Forces: 15 Fleets, 5 Legions, 1 Evocati(Lupus), 3 Veterans(Herculiani, Obeliscus, Fortuna)

Land invasion of Cilicia
Commander: Gaius Marius Maximus(Pyrrhus)
Forces: 5 Legions, 1 Evocati(Aquila), 2 Veterans(Macedonica, Rapax)

Land invasion of Illyricum
Commander: Decius Nipius(Death1816)
Forces: 1 Legion
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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02.10.2016 - 13:38
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02.10.2016 - 13:44
I'm really getting all the good stuff
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02.10.2016 - 13:45
Labenius disbanded 4 auxuliary in gauls... I told you the turn the rebellion formally started that we needed to get rid of him as he was going to betray us.

If you had made zephyrusu a dictator, then the battle in syracause would not have been this bloody (4 military skill + 5 MrArmy military skill)
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02.10.2016 - 13:48
Написано Tundy, 02.10.2016 at 13:45

Labenius disbanded 4 auxuliary in gauls... I told you the turn the rebellion formally started that we needed to get rid of him as he was going to betray us.

If you had made zephyrusu a dictator, then the battle in syracause would not have been this bloody (4 military skill + 5 MrArmy military skill)


Zeph is in a province currently and MrArmy lost his character trait along with everyone else now it's the Late Republic
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"Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone" - Pyrrhus of Epirus
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02.10.2016 - 13:48
Написано Tundy, 02.10.2016 at 13:45

Labenius disbanded 4 auxuliary in gauls... I told you the turn the rebellion formally started that we needed to get rid of him as he was going to betray us.

If you had made zephyrusu a dictator, then the battle in syracause would not have been this bloody (4 military skill + 5 MrArmy military skill)


I only have 4 military skill now btw. RIP Lucius, better than Marcus.

Also those of us still in Rome, we need even more communication if we're going to win, there are some things that we simply don't know about the game (mechanics and other things), that some of us might know.
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02.10.2016 - 14:35
Bring labenuis back from Rome any-who. He must pay in any way possible for his treacherous actions.
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02.10.2016 - 16:43
Just a question, but for state income for provinces, why are sum dice rolls negative? Is this province specific?
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Everyone is living a myth and it's important to know what yours is. It could be a tragedy- and maybe you don't want it to be.
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02.10.2016 - 18:16
Написано Pheonixking929, 02.10.2016 at 16:43

Just a question, but for state income for provinces, why are sum dice rolls negative? Is this province specific?

yes, is province specific
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02.10.2016 - 19:37
Populares only have enough money to financially support themselves for 2 more turns.
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02.10.2016 - 23:06
==Turn 23: Phase 1 has begun==
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02.10.2016 - 23:53
Raise 2 Auxiliary and Roll for Personal Income
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03.10.2016 - 00:07
Host Races, rest to rome
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03.10.2016 - 00:09
Host a Spectacle, rest to rome
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03.10.2016 - 00:15
Написано Google, 03.10.2016 at 00:07

Host Races, rest to rome

you didn't like my plan?
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03.10.2016 - 00:15
Написано Safari, 03.10.2016 at 00:09

Host a Spectacle, rest to rome

plz don't host a game
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03.10.2016 - 01:36
Написано Google, 03.10.2016 at 00:07

Host Races, rest to rome

I'm sure Rome will appreciate the rest of your treasury; the sum total of 1 Talent



Topkek you guys are bungling everything up. You realize Pyrrhus, the rest of Populares and I are screaming at Aetius to stop spoonfeeding you guys information and hints on what you need to do....until we realized Rome has descended into degeneracy so far as to be far too stupid to realize it

OOC, Tunder is (shockingly) the only one showing some common sense.
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03.10.2016 - 01:44
Sell all equite and everything to Rome
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03.10.2016 - 01:51
Написано Meester, 03.10.2016 at 01:44

Sell all equite and everything to Rome

Aah the actions of the desperate

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03.10.2016 - 01:53
Написано Darth., 03.10.2016 at 01:51




I'm just trying to troll till we can start a new game, hopefully with some house rules for factions this time.
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03.10.2016 - 05:12
Sell all Equites, donate everything to Rome
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